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Topic: Allis 5015 engine replacement
Posted By: cj93z
Subject: Allis 5015 engine replacement
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2016 at 5:11pm
I bought a well used 5015 4x4 at auction early in 2015.  It was smoking a bit but ran good.  Unfortunately it suddenly started knocking and before I could shut it down it blew the left side of the engine with the oil pump/filter right off.  Looks like the #2 piston/rod had a problem :(  I've been looking for a replacement engine.  I can't afford too much because like I said the tractor isn't in the best shape but everything seemed to be working ok before it blew.  I'm will to travel a few hours from NJ.  Will an engine from another tractor fit without too much trouble?  I don't mind some fabrication.  I've seen a couple 5020s for sale but I'm not sure how hard that swap would be.  I really like this 4x4 tractor and it was going to replace a couple of my smaller simplicity garden tractors.

Thanks in advance for any help or advice!



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Posted By: Dnoym N. S. Can.
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2016 at 6:39pm
will this be of any help too see
what they used them in
 Toyosha 1.0L 3-cyl diesel
http://tractors.wikia.com/wiki/Hinomoto" rel="nofollow - http://tractors.wikia.com/wiki/Hinomoto

http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/005/0/5/5055-bombardier-mpv-20.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors
http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/005/0/5/5055-bombardier-mpv-20.html" rel="nofollow - /005/0/5/5055-bombardier-mpv-20.html

http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/000/1/9/191-allis-chalmers-5015.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors
http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/000/1/9/191-allis-chalmers-5015.html" rel="nofollow - /000/1/9/191-allis-chalmers-5015.html

                               B:-)   Dnoym


Posted By: JacksAC
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2016 at 7:56pm
If you will be selling the simplicities can you let
me know .
Thanks, and sorry to hear you bought a lemon
Auction equipment is at best a roll of the dice.
Regards:
Jack Beale
831- 710-5768


Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2016 at 9:57am
cj93C where you located in NJ?

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39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife


Posted By: JacksAC
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2016 at 10:04am
We are located in Happy Jack Arizona
May have to pack a lunch or two.
Probably need sleeping bags as well
Never been your way, may be some day


Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2016 at 10:47pm
Your post read like you were from NJ.  I'll git' out to AZ one of these days to see my buddy Armand...

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39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife


Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2016 at 5:06am
I think the same engine can be found in a MF 1010... Or maybe the 1020...


Posted By: Gary
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2016 at 9:32am

Steve

I think the wrong guy replied to your post.

Gary


Posted By: BrianC
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2016 at 12:15pm
It would seem to me that once a company gets acquired by Hitachi
the end is near.


Posted By: cj93z
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2016 at 12:18pm
Originally posted by Steve in NJ Steve in NJ wrote:

cj93C where you located in NJ?

I'm in Blairstown - not too far from you at all.


Posted By: AJ
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2016 at 12:34pm
Stick you a 125 in it. Easy to find, cheap to fix and find parts for and they everywhere. Just have a machine shop make you an adapter plate and might need to do something different with the clutch. Rick Corder can prolly help you figure that part out. Be alot easier to get started in them cold Winters too. Just a thought.

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Can't fix stupid


Posted By: cj93z
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2016 at 12:44pm
Originally posted by AJ AJ wrote:

Stick you a 125 in it. Easy to find, cheap to fix and find parts for and they everywhere. Just have a machine shop make you an adapter plate and might need to do something different with the clutch. Rick Corder can prolly help you figure that part out. Be alot easier to get started in them cold Winters too. Just a thought.

I have a good buddy with a machine shop so that's not a problem.  I heard that the motor is part of the frame on these machines so I don't know about that part. 

What exactly is a 125? ;)


Posted By: AJ
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2016 at 12:48pm
Just need to use your imagination and your buddy's machine/fabrication skills. It will fit I'm sure. Just gotta take that leap of faith in yourself. Good planning and research helps alot. A 125 is an engine found in most B,C,CAs.

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Can't fix stupid


Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2016 at 5:20pm
Yer right Gary. I didn't realize it was the other guy that posted back. Wow! cj93z you're 20 minutes away via Rt94!  Good to know.

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39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife


Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2016 at 6:29pm
That whole tractor would need to be butchered to try to make it run with a 125 4 cylinder engine.  Making it LOOK like a tractor after that is another adventure!  

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'49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080


Posted By: BrianC
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2016 at 6:43pm
Go ahead, butcher it.  I saw a 5015 re-workd to look like a D21, that was neat.
Is there a photo of that somewhere on this site.


Posted By: cj93z
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2016 at 12:22pm
Originally posted by DSeries4 DSeries4 wrote:

That whole tractor would need to be butchered to try to make it run with a 125 4 cylinder engine.  Making it LOOK like a tractor after that is another adventure!  

I don't really mind butchering it because the overall condition is a little rough anyway.  Just need to do it for around $1000 or less, that's the tricky part.  If I'm going to spend more than that I might as well sell it for parts and find another one in better shape.


Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2016 at 5:36pm
If you are set in re-doing it, if you start with say a kubota motor, you might find one that'll bolt right up, I don't know.  My bet is that they prolly had a standard bolt pattern for several tractors, like the massey and hinmoto...



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