616 not charging
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Topic: 616 not charging
Posted By: coggonobrien
Subject: 616 not charging
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2015 at 8:48am
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The 616 I bought this summer is now showing a draw on the amp meter when the clutch/lights are engaged. Where would you guy's start trouble shooting?
Thanks! David
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Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2015 at 7:12am
Start right at the Battery. The Battery might be on its way out. Slow charge the Battery to full, wait 20 minutes or so and pull a draw test. If it flunks the draw test, there's your culprit. If the Battery passes the draw test, you may have a wire or wires grounding on the chassis. Especially in the engine box area. Pretty tight in there! Take the circuit breaker out of the Battery feed circuit (by-pass it) and see if it stays the same. If it stays the same its not a bad circuit breaker or connection at the breaker. I think you installed a new flywheel and stator didn't you? Or, is this the newest one you picked up?
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39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife
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Posted By: coggonobrien
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2015 at 8:58am
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This is on the newer tractor but I do have the hardware from the old. I threw in a known good battery and its still draining. With the front clutch engaged I'm at -4amps with the lights and front clutch -10amps. funny thing is I have never had it shut off while using it but you can tell the engine does not sound right after running a while, ignition sounds weak.
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Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2015 at 7:45am
Might need an Ignition switch Dave. That's pullin' a lot of amps off such a small 15 amp system. Ignition switches get a lot of corrosion around em' especially if its the original. Its a popular item with us in our 620 parts section. See if the switch is getting warm or hot.
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39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife
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Posted By: coggonobrien
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2015 at 8:55am
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Are you talking the key switch? I have had an issue the whole time whereby ou hit the key and hear the starter hit but not turn. Then after a few it takes off. I assumed it was a starter issue.
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Posted By: coggonobrien
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2015 at 7:55pm
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Steve, can you send me a pm with price shipped 2 day priority for the ignition switch? Also does your complete wiring harness kit come with the ignition?
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Posted By: coggonobrien
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2015 at 9:26am
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well the problem progressed over the weekend, now the tractor will not start but has full lights. I can hear the circuit breaker trip and reset so I guess I have to look for a cracked wire.
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