Grader model D
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Topic: Grader model D
Posted By: markmc60
Subject: Grader model D
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2015 at 6:50am
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The engine/head were rebuilt and was never reassembled. I have a few buckets of bolts and parts. I will have to hone off the surface Of the cylinders and turn it over. I need info on which is the best manual for engine reassembly Where fo I get it? What is the best way to get the studs out if the block and head. I have a few pictures. Just not sure how to upload them right now I will load them to photobucket sometime today. |
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Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2015 at 8:31am
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Agco manual for the WD and WD 45 would be the best, IMHO. Stud remover should get them out, or vice grips, close to the bottom of stud. If they are real tight heat with propane torch, to about 250 F and melt a beeswax candle against the bottom threads, let cool, and try again.
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Posted By: markmc60
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2015 at 9:18am
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Posted By: markmc60
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2015 at 9:22am
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Posted By: markmc60
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2015 at 9:23am
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Posted By: markmc60
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2015 at 9:24am
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Posted By: markmc60
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2015 at 9:26am
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Posted By: markmc60
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2015 at 9:26am
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Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2015 at 6:16pm
See the square area, on the frame rail, above where you step up to get in? (in this photo) That is where the grader serial number should be. the number you chalked is the motor serial number. Other than it being a gas motor, it doesn't say much about year, etc.
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markmc60 wrote:Posted By: markmc60
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2015 at 7:10pm
| Can someone tell me the year of this unit? |
Posted By: markmc60
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2015 at 7:11pm
| There is the 180-15 stamped in the frame |
Posted By: Ages Cat
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2015 at 7:51pm
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The data plate appears to be installed on the right side of the operators station on the outside of the enclosure. (Black plate) There will be a D number on the plate . With that number we can determine the year. Ours is a 1956, Serial D-4997. ------------- Curt Anderson HD3, HD5B, HD6AG,HD6B dozer, I-400,615, 616,620,720,ACP25 lift truck, 1956 D Grader, AC 540 loader, AC #84 plow, Simplicity tractors, Agco MT225, Agco 2025, |
Posted By: markmc60
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2015 at 7:59am
http://s1099.photobucket.com/user/markmc59/media/IMG_3338_zpspe7wthdi.jpg.html" rel="nofollow"> ohhh you mean this spot here...... yeah, not there. |
Posted By: Gary
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2015 at 9:46am
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Engine Serial No. is 1949 era. Gary |
Posted By: markmc60
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2015 at 10:12am
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thanks Gary, I am going to put it all back together one way or the other. just thought it would be nice to see what year the grader is. round frame and tilt front wheels, that might help me isolate it. again, thanks to everyone for the input. |
Posted By: Ross D.
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2015 at 11:36am
| Hi Mark. I would assume that this grader would be from the early 1950's: WD engine, no hydraulic turn mech. for the rotation of the blade and a smaller gas tank. What is interesting is that it appears to have the tilt mech. on the front wheels. Ross. |
Posted By: Ages Cat
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2015 at 4:55pm
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In looking at the parts book, the machine upgrades took place after serial 3370. This would include the WD-45 engine, improved wheel lean as there was also a mod to the moldboard which shows a welded and non welded mounting ball prior to serial number 2477. After 2477 the ball on the circle arm would have been welded rather than a separate part. 2477 to 3370 serial range would make it a 52-53 vintage. ------------- Curt Anderson HD3, HD5B, HD6AG,HD6B dozer, I-400,615, 616,620,720,ACP25 lift truck, 1956 D Grader, AC 540 loader, AC #84 plow, Simplicity tractors, Agco MT225, Agco 2025, |
Posted By: Dgrader
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2015 at 8:28pm
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Mark, look on top of the hydraulic control box. See if there's a plate on there with some numbers. ------------- Ya cain't fix stupid. |
Posted By: Ross D.
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2015 at 5:49am
| Good morning. There should be a I.D. plate on the hydraulic pump also.( the pump is driven off of the crankshaft pulleys at the rear of the grader. ). Ross. |
Posted By: markmc60
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2015 at 8:10am
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Posted By: markmc60
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2015 at 8:11am
http://s1099.photobucket.com/user/markmc59/media/IMG_3335_zpszzdkksni.jpg.html" rel="nofollow"> these are the numbers on the plate at the Hyd. control |
Posted By: markmc60
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2015 at 8:19am
http://s1099.photobucket.com/user/markmc59/media/IMG_3197_zpsivguc64p.jpg.html" rel="nofollow"> by the looks of the ball of the blade in this picture it is bolted on. |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2015 at 8:36am
| A picture of the rad grill might help nail down the year, if you have the grill, that is... |
Posted By: Ross D.
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2015 at 9:06am
| You might try to remove some of the paint on this tag in order to see if there is some additional information under the paint. Careful, these tags may be aluminum and hard to clean so that you do not erase any information that may exist. Ross. |
Posted By: markmc60
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2015 at 11:20am
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I think I have the grill, I will look in the pile of stuff, and thanks for the info. you folks are very helpful and I thank you. |
Posted By: Dgrader
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2015 at 8:15pm
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Ross I think you're right about it being early 50's. But the tilt steering I didn't think was available till after 55. ------------- Ya cain't fix stupid. |
Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2015 at 8:28pm
| i cant belive its hydralic my neighbor has a i think md100 it has gear boxes its alot newer than that by the way thats a neet little patrol |
Posted By: CAL(KS)
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2015 at 8:59pm
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no it doesnt make sense, all the big graders were mechanical control long after D was using hydraulic control ------------- Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20 Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15 |