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Topic: 616-620 deck question-favor?
Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Subject: 616-620 deck question-favor?
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2015 at 9:45am
I need to see how the rear roller assembly axle attaches to the bracket. Mine have been molested. The manual is not clear on it. Any help appreciated. Thanks Tracy

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No greater gift than healthy grandkids!



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Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2015 at 10:18am
the very best that i can find is go to simmplicity.com and type in 1690074   


Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2015 at 11:04am
All I get with that is sewing patterns.That shaft is either threaded on one end or welded to the bracket.  Tracy

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No greater gift than healthy grandkids!


Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2015 at 9:05pm
Tracy, I don't have pics, but I redid my deck a few years ago.

The shaft is welded directly to the bracket on the right hand side.  I got my local fab shop to make a new shaft out of stainless steel and cutout all new brackets.  They also welded the shaft to the first (right side) bracket to ensure it was in the correct spot.  That, along with new rollers really tightened things up nicely.

If I recall, you start by taking the nut off the left side, then remove the rollers, spacers, and other mounting brackets.


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'49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080


Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2015 at 9:21pm
D series, I know it was welded on one of mine. One had threads on the opposite end. I can't tell by the manual though. I am making new brackets also. A pic of each end would be great if you can. Thanks tracy

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No greater gift than healthy grandkids!


Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2015 at 9:25pm
I'll see if I can get to it in the next couple of days...

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'49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080


Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2015 at 9:47pm
Any help appreciated. Tracy

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No greater gift than healthy grandkids!


Posted By: BrianC
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2015 at 5:03pm
Mine is welded on the right, on the left side, just the plain rod end protruding through bracket by about 3/4". I Don't know the history of the deck.


Posted By: Toscani NE SD
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2015 at 7:40pm
both my 620 and 720 welded on right only,like Brian said, is how they are


Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2015 at 9:02pm
Here you go Tracy...
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Hope these help!


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'49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080


Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2015 at 9:36pm
Originally posted by DSeries4 DSeries4 wrote:

Here you go Tracy...
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Hope these help!



That is what I needed. Thanks a million! Tracy

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No greater gift than healthy grandkids!


Posted By: BrianC
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2015 at 7:37am
Are the rollers supposed to be lubricated, something was squeaking on mine last I used it.


Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2015 at 5:00pm
Originally posted by DSeries4 DSeries4 wrote:

Here you go Tracy...
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Hope these help!


Notice the adjustment screws on each end of deck.My cream colored decks and orange decks are different.There must of been a change on the tube it goes thru at some time. They are different lengths between the two of them.You guys take a look and see what type is on yours. Tracy Tracy

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No greater gift than healthy grandkids!


Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2015 at 9:30pm
go on simplicity.com use manual # 990698  will go with the above posts real well and i will bet most of those numbers will cross  i found that # looking for the 540 pto adapter box


Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2015 at 10:32pm
Originally posted by BrianC BrianC wrote:

Are the rollers supposed to be lubricated, something was squeaking on mine last I used it.


There are nylon bushings inside of the rollers.  Are you sure the squeaking was coming from them?


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'49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080


Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2015 at 11:05am
Myron,
That deck looks dirty buddy. Gotta' clean that up! That's not like you...  LOL! Great pics by the way...


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39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife


Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2015 at 11:13am
Damn Steve, you know me too well!  My dad was doing some work in the barn in that area and made a mess.  Nothing that a little soap and water can't fix! Little too cold for that now.


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'49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080


Posted By: BrianC
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2015 at 6:25pm
Wait a minute, what is this 540 rpm PTO convert box?
Did that really exist? What is the part number?
Anyone have a picture or drawing?

The only current production implement that I found using 2000
rpm is the BEFCO T30 tiller, 2000 rpm is an option..



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