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It will hold more wheight hooked to it than kens wheels will. Pulled 6000 lbs alot with that hitch.hitch has ran many of years in kentucky alabama and tn

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Yeah, 6000 pounds of slow gradually applied weight, that's a lot
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Originally posted by mlpankey mlpankey wrote:

Better height on tires no front weight rack . What you pull 2750and quit at 3000. Butch you can move shifter to road gear with my engines. I am sure its just not my talent around the entire usa. Last picture proves point looks dont make them pull
well you so called experienced puller, I do believe road gear on the tractors ken posted is 4th gear, which he said he uses, which would also be to the middle and down, (left and down is reverse lol)
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I really doesn't have to do with the strength of the adjustable link. I'm sure it's strong enough as there is much less pull downward in comparison to the pull rearward. The problem has to do with the location of the top of the adjustable link. Anything above the centerline of the rear axle is incorrect and dangerous.

Example #1:

If the lower portion of the hitch fails or gets pulled loose from the tractor, then the adjustable link being higher than the axle centerline (still attached to the loose hitch which is still attached to the sled)could potentially pull the tractor over backwards. Then, in this case since the wheelie bars are attached to the broken lower hitch, there now is nothing to keep the tractor from going over backwards.

Example #2

When a hitch fails it is typically at the beginning or even more likely at the end of a run just before it spins out. At the end of a run the front wheels are in the air so if a hitch would break at this point it is the equivalent of dumping the clutch heading up a steep hill at full power. Again, if the wheelie bars are attached to the hitch that has just left the scene, then there is nothing to keep the tractor from flipping over.

Yes there are some that will say it would never happen, but what if it did. It is certainly two plausible scenarios. If we take time to think of what could happen when building things, then bad things are less likely to happen.



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Originally posted by mlpankey mlpankey wrote:

Who pulls with natpa. Heck we want competition not oil and water blowers.yes you.could have better penetration if you use helium. Seen to many of the insides of them ntpa points winners engines no competition from engines with loose sleeves.and water in oil or blowing out stack. Ask larry edmonds about them natpa points winners he bought one hax it a week when be gave me a call wanting to know how to stop the water from getting into oil pan.

Good grief slow down, take a deep breath and wipe the tears out of your eyes and the slobber off your mouth. Your like a toddler who just got told to put the cookies back in the cupboard as supper is in the oven.  Wheneveryougetallworkedupthewordsallruntogetherlikethis.

My post has nothing to do with NATPA other than I used their rule as an example. Other organisations use the same rule and it was formed with sound basis.

 The reason your hitch is not allowed is if it breaks loose at the bottom the adjusting link then becomes the pulling point and being above the center of the rear tires, or axle as they say it, this means instant back flip before the cutoff cable can work or you can get off the throttle.  This is why NATPA and a whole host of other pulling organisations require the adjusting devise to be located BELOW the axle centerline. 

What this has to do with somebody who has water in the oil you need to further explain as you lost me somewhere?

Where is the Gleason?.










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Usually whenever plink0 gets haggled these threads turn into a 5 gold star rateing. Whatever that means.

I wish I had more time to pull up some old info, but plink0's reason for his oil cooler at one time was because he was oil cooling the block also. Seams he couldn't keep the water out of the oil pan. Then he posts using .002" press fit on sleeves, any of you care to guess what .002" press fit will do to a ribbon of material left after boreing the block? Plink0's not as bright as he thought.

Not only is his lack of experience showing, but his lack of intelligence is showing. Trying to argue the same point from different angles every few days, not knowing if it's water, oil, what kind of system is used.

Ken and Mike would know about gears and gear ratios. One of my favorite plink0 lies is when he was telling me he was running high gear, fast ring and pinion and pulling at 5500 or 6000 pounds. His governor broke and his engine went to 6000 RPM so fast he couldn't pull the throttle back. Do any of you know how fast high gear is in a WD? Well it's very close to 18 to 1, meaning 18 turns of the crankshaft turn the wheels 1 turn.

I pull a NTPA Light Super Stock. Many of the tractors in this class also run a gear ratio real close to 18 to 1, some taller, some shorter. Just depends on turbos and how fast the engine is set up to run. But with and 18 to 1 gear ratio and big enough windmills up front, a pretty good cylinder head we can run in the 6000 RPM range also. It's just that we can prove it and have roughly 3000 HP under the hood. At 6200 pounds it takes about 2500 ft lbs of torque to pull it off and the engines may have to build more than 3000 ft lbs when the pan on the sled loads up. That's not even an impressive lie plink0, it's showing lack of intelligence even thinking you can lie like that. By the way, when the tires break and spin even the forced induction engines will climb fast, but usually only a few hundred RPM before the driver can pull the throttle.

I love the external balance BS, his flywheel drilled full of holes, OEM CAST flywheel that is. Shoots the 6000RPM story full of holes now doesn't it.

And last but not least, lets see some more pics of that oil cooler. I'd like to point out a few flaws in the way that ignition system is set up. Mounting the coil where it's placed is a no no. Running a coil wire that long is asking for trouble on such a "high performance application". The longer the wire, the more the resistance. Trust me, I have to pay attention to those things to keep all the cylinders fireing.
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You are correct Mitch, helium shielding gas allows better penetration, but on material that is only 1/8" to 1/4" thick, it's really not an issue, especially if a square wave machine is used, and really not much of an issue with a sine wave machine if the operator is any good. I'm not a certified welder, never professed to be, but I 'm confident enough in my skills to not be ashamed either. As for the use of 4th gear, I 'm not sure what you meant about your talent and everyone else in the USA, but, by using 4th gear you remove a gear train from the equation, resulting in more power through the transmission, if a speed limit is not an issue, and you have the ponies to turn it, there is no down side. You should be thanking Marty for helping you out with the pics, these guys on here are really a good bunch if you would just back off and learn to not antagonize everyone with your critical remarks.
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I found myself a Lincoln square wave 355 machine, made in the mid to later 1990's it's 410 amps of pure power on a single phase line. I don't . I don't have3 phase in the shop but run a home made converter for the mill and lathe. Sure the new inverter machines are fancy and light, but the big Lincoln has the horsepower to do anything and more features than a guy needs or knows how to use.

I do some tubeing fabrication. Again nothing fancy, $400 to Pro-tools in Florida for a bender, a few die sets that cost about as much as the bender itself and a notcher.

I'll post some pics a bit later iI get a chance.

is that AC or DC chicken poo in your pics there plank0? Relax, we don't really care.
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Originally posted by wi50 wi50 wrote:

I found myself a Lincoln square wave 355 machine, made in the mid to later 1990's it's 410 amps of pure power on a single phase line. I don't . I don't have3 phase in the shop but run a home made converter for the mill and lathe. Sure the new inverter machines are fancy and light, but the big Lincoln has the horsepower to do anything and more features than a guy needs or knows how to use.

I do some tubeing fabrication. Again nothing fancy, $400 to Pro-tools in Florida for a bender, a few die sets that cost about as much as the bender itself and a notcher.

I'll post some pics a bit later iI get a chance.

is that AC or DC chicken poo in your pics there plank0? Relax, we don't really care.



Haha, I was going to ask how that all aluminum intake was holding at 100 psi TIG welded with Argon... You must have done it wrong Marty :)
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Your correct ken glad you researched helium is for material 3/8 thick. helium and aluminuim welding .now aluminum being a soft material compared to steel how thick is your bars. To address marty yes the post turn into several stars cause one has to weed him and his cheerleaders inexperience posts out.

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Originally posted by mlpankey mlpankey wrote:

one has to weed him and his cheerleaders inexperience posts out.

You forgot about the liars,, where is the Gleason??
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Butch the last aluminum chainsaw piston dome i welded on a 026 the one i traded for a wc on steel that the guy loves to run and cut with i stick welded.
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Originally posted by mlpankey mlpankey wrote:

Butch the last aluminum chainsaw piston dome i welded on a 026 the one i traded for a wc on steel that the guy loves to run and cut with i stick welded.

That I believe.Wink
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Originally posted by mlpankey mlpankey wrote:

Butch the last aluminum chainsaw piston dome i welded on a 026 the one i traded for a wc on steel that the guy loves to run and cut with i stick welded.


I know chineese people who speak better engrish. < intentionally spelled wrong.. than you do.

Give up the lies, you are not a value added member to this forum.

This thread proves yet again you are a fool with a keyboard.


And to the fella who traded a WC for anything you worked on. Talk about no Vaseline, or he must have been dumber than you.


I really like when you try to argue engineering with Ken about his wheelie bars... Have you looked at yours?? Classic.
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Yeap pretty much what all thin aluminum tanks get welded with is stick rods
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Mitch, what does it matter how thick the bars are? if I tell you, it won't be right, and my work will never compare to your wonderfully engineered and built masterpiece, will it? I didn't ahve to research anything, I've been welding since 1971, it may not look like it, but I do have a little knowledge on the subject, and to answer the earlier post, helium is expensive and usually not needed with proper joint design, I do this to earn a living, I don't get a Government paycheck to subsidize when I lose money on a job, and don't spend it when I don't have to. So where is the proof of the Gleason, if your camera is broken, just scan the copy of the invoice with your name on it, we will accept that and I will be the first to apologize. Being a certified welder, why would you weld a piston with a stick welder? just to stay sharp on your skills, so the next time a critical job comes up (say a leg breaks on the cream seperator,  the wringer on the wash machine breaks, or a door hinge on your research library (outhouse) breaks, it won't be a problem?
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I'm wrong again, darn it, I've built one or two oil tanks and TIG welded them, and used argon, but that was only for  Indy cars and a couple Champ dirt cars, that must be why we got away with it, Those USAC guys aren't too bright, probably couldn't tell the difference.
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Camera isnt broken i am in edinboro for two weeks. Shops are in tn where i live. One shop is at 727 REYNOLDS BRIDGE RD. The other is 184 STARLETT CIRCLE .but you guys dont believe that so why bother with showing the gleason or the crank grinder or crank press for that matter.
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Thats what i figured your shop would be. If you critique hard you expect to be critiqued hard. Its all a learning process it just hurts the ones who wears their feelings on their sleeves wich i find is common among the yankees. I guess thats why they curse in every sentence so they can feel big
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I do believe someone asked for this
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Originally posted by mlpankey mlpankey wrote:

Thats what i figured your shop would be. If you critique hard you expect to be critiqued hard. Its all a learning process it just hurts the ones who wears their feelings on their sleeves wich i find is common among the yankees. I guess thats why they curse in every sentence so they can feel big




If you had anything to show for all yur profound knowledge peoeple might believe a word that spews from your mouth. The only thing you have to show for it is p!ss poor workmanship ex: pulley welds, and wheelie bars, and oil cooler, and Blunt axed lightened rims, the list goes on. The other thing you have is a bucket of parts (scrap) that came out of your engine. Oh and that awesome points standing that you keep eluding too..    Did you manage to get those big pistons out through the bottom yet?    Post more you our buddies addresses on the Internet to google up.

Where's the Gleason..........?


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You right for once Plinky, Its all laid out here over the years for all to see and critique. 

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Where is the Gleason??




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If you want to see his other work, including his wheel work check out the thread titled hi comp pistons
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After i get off vacation i will be assembling a stroker 226 . Other than my friend kurt no one has shown one but me and no one is continuing to show them but me. Eat your heart out . Some play with wheels hitches and paint. Only the hitch has anything to do with pulling. Engine tire cutting and hitchez is what gets one down track. My pictures are out there for the ones who have nothing to sbow something. Thats obviously why so many post them

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Originally posted by mlpankey mlpankey wrote:

After i get off vacation i will be assembling a stroker 226 . Other than my friend kurt no one has shown one but me and no one is continuing to show them but me. Eat your heart out . Some play with wheels hitches and paint. Only the hitch has anything to do with pulling. Engine tire cutting and hitchez is what gets one down track. My pictures are out there for the ones who have nothing to sbow something. Thats obviously why so many post them



You pictures might not be but your record is... Remember buddy 100ft short of the competition is not "getting down the track" . That's just a display of what doesn't work.


Where's the Gleason?
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You wait pank, my grandma took plenty of pics last sat. And ordered them today, in a weeks time or so I will be able to scan the pics and post them here, I will also be able to post. Videos at some point just haven't figured it out yet
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Originally posted by mlpankey mlpankey wrote:

I do keep medical gas cert still though.


Is that what they call it in Vols country. I just thought it was hot air or flatulence. Big smile
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Tn medical gas card is like a certif so one can smoke pot right?
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Originally posted by mlpankey mlpankey wrote:

Camera isnt broken i am in edinboro for two weeks. Shops are in tn where i live. One shop is at 727 REYNOLDS BRIDGE RD. The other is 184 STARLETT CIRCLE .but you guys dont believe that so why bother with showing the gleason or the crank grinder or crank press for that matter.
you show pics and I will apologize to ya and even promote your business around my parts
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