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Butch(OH) 
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 Posted: 09 Jul 2013 at 7:30am |
Ya Steve, your right. Plinky makes my day sometimes  .
But I think he is more like a Parrot than a comedian.
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mlpankey
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Posted: 09 Jul 2013 at 8:19am |
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Ken you asked a question . I will give a answere. I thought it was mig due to the weld penetration. Then hou guys said it was tig ao i knew rhen it was either argon or tungstein that caused what i was seeing. Your post proves it was the argon use. Because you. dont know proper technique or to cheap to have helium for shield gas isn't a reason to say its a dark age technique . When its still known as the best way to get good penetration welds when welding aluminum. I was farm raised like alot on here. When I furtheded my education with trades and labor i found out alot of things taught on the farm were incorrect.
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Posted: 09 Jul 2013 at 8:24am |
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Right... you're educated...
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Posted: 09 Jul 2013 at 8:44am |
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I am taking up a collection so we all can rent a large bus and take a trip south to check out this incredable machine shop and unbeliveable pulling tractor of pankys
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Posted: 09 Jul 2013 at 8:51am |
Why travel to Tenn when all you have to do is go to your local junk yard and watch the goings on?
Ken also asked another question and so have I ???WHERE IS THE GLEASON???
LIAR
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Posted: 09 Jul 2013 at 8:59am |
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Butch run over to another forum you may find it. Then again you have and havent
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Posted: 09 Jul 2013 at 9:05am |
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Butch run over to another forum you may find it. Then again you have and havent |
What is that supposed to mean? Speak english! I want to know where YOUR Gleason is, The one YOU own and YOU operate.
??WHERE IS THE GLEASON??? LIAR
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Posted: 09 Jul 2013 at 9:17am |
Butch, he also claims to be doing all kinds of line boreing jobs on all those billet main caps that the ameturers are building on their Allis blocks....... anyone smart enough to build the main caps is smart enough to have them line bored though. Another lie he's posting.
I've logged a few thousand hours of helmet time and can just about tell you what machine Ken was useing.....nice design and fabrication work on the parts. It makes a difference when a professional builds things, the ameturers and apprentices really show their jealousy.
Ken issued the challenge to have pics by monday. All weekend to grind and shine plinko and you have avoided Ken's challenge. So I've decided to help my simple minded southern buddy meet Ken's demands.
Straight from plinko's shop, to your computer screen
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"see what happens when you have no practical experience doing something...... you end up playing with calculators and looking stupid on the internet"
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Posted: 09 Jul 2013 at 9:25am |
Speaking of proper welding technique and for a guy with all his welding cirtification, another pic from plinko.
Though we've seen this pic before it illustrates what some feel is proper welding technique. Others feel it's "been victamized by a low flying flock of geese"
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"see what happens when you have no practical experience doing something...... you end up playing with calculators and looking stupid on the internet"
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Posted: 09 Jul 2013 at 9:25am |
mlpankey wrote:
Ken you asked a question . I will give a answere. I thought it was mig due to the weld penetration. Then hou guys said it was tig ao i knew rhen it was either argon or tungstein that caused what i was seeing. Your post proves it was the argon use. Because you. dont know proper technique or to cheap to have helium for shield gas isn't a reason to say its a dark age technique . When its still known as the best way to get good penetration welds when welding aluminum. I was farm raised like alot on here. When I furtheded my education with trades and labor i found out alot of things taught on the farm were incorrect. |
You need to get control of your bowels Plinky. Ken has posted great quality machine and fab work while we have memories of your wheelie bars that look to have been chewed out by an alligator and chit on by a chicken to hold them together. Then the same (or another?) chicken dropped a load on your front pulley and you werent even ashamed to post a picture of it, was all that prior to your new found education? Just a question.
Edit, Marty posted some pics while I was typen. Too bad we dont have a close up of that mounting Marty, LOL Of course it is hard to have good control of the weld bead when you cables are 2/3 chopped in two, LOL.
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Posted: 09 Jul 2013 at 9:48am |
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I could plug them with my thumbs as you do. But then i couldnt work my machinery
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Posted: 09 Jul 2013 at 9:48am |
Here is "my" Gleason Plinky only I am not going to tell tall stories like you. This Gleason is at Harts in Cecil and I hire John to use HIS Gleason to weld my cranks. Talk to John sometime about crank welding and you will at least be able to type about that subject without making a fool of yourself.
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Posted: 09 Jul 2013 at 9:56am |
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Which machine was it you used to make your lightweight WD wheel centers? Ken has posted that he used his CNC water jet table to build his. I posted that I guessed that you used a broad axe to make yours but you never responded. Could you take a close up of those for us and explain?
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Posted: 09 Jul 2013 at 9:57am |
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Then its not yours is it. So dont post pictures of other peoples stuff. Why would you spend that much time doing tbat much clean work on short wheels and leave lugs as tall as they are for pulling. It would have to be inexperience cause anyone who has been to two pulls that they participated in know tall tire lugs. Kills a pulling tractor and good cut tires makes a tractor
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Posted: 09 Jul 2013 at 10:14am |
Why would I own a Gleason to weld two cranks a year? Smart people hire out what they cannot economically do for themselves and hire good people to do it. Even you chose to purchase complete engines from Tarbil and Shippman. Too bad you didnt leave them alone or you could still be pulling instead of talking about it.
Picture of John's machine was to show I am honest, and a joke,,,but then again I never claimed to own a Gleason,, you did,, where is it?
So when you showed up at the pulls with Rice and Cane tires on your tractor that was prior to your 3rd hook I take it?
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Posted: 09 Jul 2013 at 10:14am |
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Those are Wards Riverside tires I use for Dead weight at a pull where cut tires aren't allowed Pankey. Something I'm sure you can't fathom, but that tractor pulls on 28's, 36's, 38's, cut and uncut, and steel, deadweight and transfer, 2750# to 4500#, all gears from 1st to 4th, been doing it for ten years now, trophies to prove it and the engine has only been out once to change a clutch. Plenty of witness's also. I must admit that I've never tried rice and cane tires like someone on here posted pictures of. If you ever build anything that makes it one season, I'd be surprised by the looks of your work. Once again, why don't you just give it up and try to learn something here?
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Posted: 09 Jul 2013 at 10:22am |
Plinky, Read Ken's post very carefully, Hint, read what gears he uses.
Ken, Spose plink would cough and spit when he seen you shove the shifter all the way to the right and pull down??? LOL
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Posted: 09 Jul 2013 at 10:34am |
Short tires?
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Posted: 09 Jul 2013 at 10:53am |
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Better height on tires no front weight rack . What you pull 2750and quit at 3000. Butch you can move shifter to road gear with my engines. I am sure its just not my talent around the entire usa. Last picture proves point looks dont make them pull
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Posted: 09 Jul 2013 at 10:56am |
mlpankey wrote:
Then its not yours is it. So dont post pictures of other peoples stuff. Why would you spend that much time doing tbat much clean work on short wheels and leave lugs as tall as they are for pulling. It would have to be inexperience cause anyone who has been to two pulls that they participated in know tall tire lugs. Kills a pulling tractor and good cut tires makes a tractor |
ohh really, see how do you know, just last Saturday I pulled at a track that had a lot of loose silty dirt, one of my tires is a fairly new Goodyear , the other is a fairly worn Goodrich ( yeah I know kind of a pankey like set up but it actually works well) anyway my tall(er) lugged tire gripped better than my short lugged Goodrich. The track was weird because the boys watered and pack it a ton yet there was still a bunch of loose dirt and dust on top. The point is, are tall lugged tires the best probably not, but are they better than short lugs, yes in certain situations
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Posted: 09 Jul 2013 at 11:00am |
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Butch, he also claims to be doing all kinds of line boreing jobs on all those billet main caps that the ameturers are building on their Allis blocks....... anyone smart enough to build the main caps is smart enough to have them line bored though. Another lie he's posting.
I've logged a few thousand hours of helmet time and can just about tell you what machine Ken was useing.....nice design and fabrication work on the parts. It makes a difference when a professional builds things, the ameturers and apprentices really show their jealousy.
Ken issued the challenge to have pics by monday. All weekend to grind and shine plinko and you have avoided Ken's challenge. So I've decided to help my simple minded southern buddy meet Ken's demands.
Straight from plinko's shop, to your computer screen
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anyone else notice that it looks like he used an a arm from a car or truck for his adjustable hitch
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Posted: 09 Jul 2013 at 11:05am |
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Hitch has pulled more in 6000 lbs class than all the hecklers years of pulling combined.
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Posted: 09 Jul 2013 at 11:16am |
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Someone give it a cookie, Mitch how long has that hitch lasted, cause mine has lasted 63 years pulling and doing field work combined, and I am pretty sure it has lived threw a lot more force than your cob job has in its maybe 5 years of pulling 6000 pound class. Not to mention that a sled gradually puts pressure on the hitch where as doing field works jerks it about with more force edit: I should mention I am second owner of it and knew the previous owner and it was his main tractor for 20 some years and a frequently used backup or secondary tractor when or if his main tractor had the loader on it
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Posted: 09 Jul 2013 at 11:16am |
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U haven't pulled it lately because all the sleds use the big hook now and theres no way u could get the big hook in there has to be 3 1/2 inch hole.
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Posted: 09 Jul 2013 at 6:13pm |
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I don't care for the wheelie bar / drawbar set up in the above photos (not Ken's, the other ones) and here is why:
1 - It appears the wheelie bars and drawbar are tied together or connected in some way. They should be separate pieces.
2 - The third link or whatever was used for the drawbar height adjustment appears to be above the centerline of the rear axle. It should be well below it.
There are safety reasons for both examples. Those of you with a little common sense will understand why. And then I'm sure there are those who will argue. This is the stuff that makes it on to You Tube when it fails and makes tractor pulling and those involved in it look bad - not to mention the possibility of someone getting hurt or killed.
Use a little thought before building this stuff. Safety first boys.
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Posted: 09 Jul 2013 at 8:24pm |
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Nope the adjuster isn't legal for NAPTA and anyone who cant figure out why shouldn't be building hitches. They don't like the wheelie bars attached to the hitch but not strictly forbidden in NAPTA but I have seen it so other places. Just more non-engineered cobbling by the site's smartest person.
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Posted: 09 Jul 2013 at 8:54pm |
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Dang, have I been doing it wrong all these years by using 100% Argon? Leon R
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Posted: 09 Jul 2013 at 9:32pm |
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Who pulls with natpa. Heck we want competition not oil and water blowers.yes you.could have better penetration if you use helium. Seen to many of the insides of them ntpa points winners engines no competition from engines with loose sleeves.and water in oil or blowing out stack. Ask larry edmonds about them natpa points winners he bought one hax it a week when be gave me a call wanting to know how to stop the water from getting into oil pan.
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Posted: 09 Jul 2013 at 9:36pm |
O.P.S. Heads wrote:
I don't care for the wheelie bar / drawbar set up in the above photos (not Ken's, the other ones) and here is why:
1 - It appears the wheelie bars and drawbar are tied together or connected in some way. They should be separate pieces.
2 - The third link or whatever was used for the drawbar height adjustment appears to be above the centerline of the rear axle. It should be well below it.
There are safety reasons for both examples. Those of you with a little common sense will understand why. And then I'm sure there are those who will argue. This is the stuff that makes it on to You Tube when it fails and makes tractor pulling and those involved in it look bad - not to mention the possibility of someone getting hurt or killed.
Use a little thought before building this stuff. Safety first boys. |
ya know, lookin at it, it seems like a lot for just one top link and two bolts, our association requires at least two category zero top links on the adjustable hitch, for the classes I run, and at least two higher category hitches the higher weight classes you go, also his hodge podge hitch is way too flimsy for our rule book. Ohh and the bolts are required to be grade 8
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Posted: 09 Jul 2013 at 9:40pm |
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Ohh and pank just so you know you can tell a grade 8 bolt by its head and the markings it has, or at least you can if you buy them from a reputable place, you probably just make your own on a piece of equipment you don't actually have, kinda like the Gleason
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