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Alberta Phil 
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Posted: 18 Nov 2019 at 9:39am |
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Might do that, Bill. Haven't been down your way for a while!
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BillinAlberta
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Posted: 18 Nov 2019 at 7:52am |
Very nice tractor Phil! If you want to see a '45 with a wallowed out front end stop by before spring. That job is on my to do list after going through my old G Gleaner.
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Sugarmaker
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Posted: 13 Nov 2019 at 7:40pm |
Phil, You guys may be easier on them!:) The one tractor that I saved had been used in the woods to skid logs. The wide front was so wore out the tire had worn one of the bolt heads in the top pivot arm on the steering shaft! It did not have a easy life. But is fixed up and retired now! Don't know the back story on the other wide front, 3 bolt WD? But when I found it, the rear axle was broke in half at the spline for the bull gear. I got both very reasonable. But unlike your new one, I had to put a lot of work into making a decent one. Enjoy that new 45! Regards, Chris
Edited by Sugarmaker - 13 Nov 2019 at 7:42pm
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Alberta Phil
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Posted: 13 Nov 2019 at 2:47pm |
Still a lot of WD and WD45 tractors in use around this area, quite a few with loaders. I have 5 if I include my two parts tractors and I've never seen even one with the three bolt front mount loose or with holes wallowed out. Maybe we're just easier on them up here! 
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Lon(MN)
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Posted: 13 Nov 2019 at 12:57pm |
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One change from three bolt to four bolt is two bolts on the four bolt have a taper to the bolt and plate to hold it from moving. Many three bolt plates would move and egg out the holes. I have made up several of the rear supports hoping to sell some but no interest.
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Ed (Ont)
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Posted: 13 Nov 2019 at 12:08pm |
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I had a machine shop make me a new 3 bolt front plate as the hole for pivot pin was egg shaped from wear. On the new plate I asked to double the thickness at pivot pin. So they welded a piece there same thickness as plate and put the correct hole thru the whole thing. I think that pivot pin is 1” but can’t remember for sure. Was going to drill and tap and install grease fitting but have not done that. Lol. 😀
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Sugarmaker
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Posted: 13 Nov 2019 at 8:05am |
Ed, Not the expert here but I haven't seen any changes other than the front plate. Of course the casting it bolts to may have had some minor changes to get the material for the additional tapped holes and new locations. I am sure the change was made to strengthen that weak point of the WD wide front end design. It was only weak if the tractor was abused. I see a lot that survived as 3 bolts. Of course the two that I had both were damaged and I had to make mine into a one of a kind 7 bolt to save it! Guess I could have went and found a good 3 or 4 bolt some where. Just too cheap and bull headed. Regards, Chris
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Ed (Ont)
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Posted: 12 Nov 2019 at 8:24pm |
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So with these 3 bolt and 4 bolt front ends. Is just the front plate different or did they beef up some of the other components?
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Alberta Phil
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Posted: 12 Nov 2019 at 7:58pm |
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acd17toy. The rear hydraulic outlet and feed tube has been removed and the port on the valve body plugged. I'll probably re-install one. I can take one off of one of my parts tractors.
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Posted: 12 Nov 2019 at 8:20am |
 Alberta Phil wrote:
Chris, yes I do. I just did a couple yesterday on another set of latches. I place a 1/4 in. flat washer over the broken drive pin and weld thru the washer to the broken pin. Then I weld a 5/16" nut to the washer, again plug welding through the hole in the nut. Let it cool and then slip a 1/2 in. box end wrench over the nut, wiggle it back and forth a few times 'til you feel it loosen up, then screw it out.
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Great tip! Got a bunch of them around here to work on this winter, think I've got 4 sets of springs ready to go.
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Posted: 11 Nov 2019 at 6:23pm |
What happened to the rear hydraulic outlet, I do not see one?
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Sugarmaker
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Posted: 11 Nov 2019 at 6:10pm |
Phil, Thank you! I can see how this may work good. I will try to save another set of these! Regards, Chris
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Alberta Phil
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Posted: 11 Nov 2019 at 2:04pm |
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Chris, yes I do. I just did a couple yesterday on another set of latches. I place a 1/4 in. flat washer over the broken drive pin and weld thru the washer to the broken pin. Then I weld a 5/16" nut to the washer, again plug welding through the hole in the nut. Let it cool and then slip a 1/2 in. box end wrench over the nut, wiggle it back and forth a few times 'til you feel it loosen up, then screw it out.
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Posted: 11 Nov 2019 at 1:13pm |
Phil, Do you have good methods to remove the drive pins in the lift latches if they are broken off? I think you did real good on this tractor! It is very nice! Regards, Chris
Edited by Sugarmaker - 11 Nov 2019 at 6:08pm
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Alberta Phil
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Posted: 11 Nov 2019 at 10:03am |
I think the fender light was installed by the original owner as a rear work light. It's mounted where the original small red light was. I have one of those but don't know if I'll change it over. I will get rid of the big right headlight which is a 12 volt sealed beam unit on a made up mount, and replace it with an original light.
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Posted: 11 Nov 2019 at 8:34am |
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I'm sure they are out there but that is the first original snap coupler decal I have seen. This is one good looking orange gal for sure.
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Posted: 11 Nov 2019 at 7:49am |
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When did the foot clutch foot rest get smaller? |
I did not know it changed? I have only seen one type. So Were they very early WD's? Pictures? Regards, Chris
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Lon(MN)
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Posted: 11 Nov 2019 at 7:42am |
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When did the foot clutch foot rest get smaller?
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Posted: 11 Nov 2019 at 7:13am |
According to my 'list' that I keep, the 4 bolt wide front started at serial no. 186413. Think I got that out of Norm's book.
Also on the list; snap-coupler became standard at 151381. Constant mesh, (WD45) transmission at 127007. Distributor ignition at 136318.
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Posted: 10 Nov 2019 at 9:31pm |
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That's a good looking old gal. Only thing I see that might not be original is the light facing the rear, and it might be original, I've just never seen 1 like it. Dads 55 had the little red light there. I always wanted a 45 with a wide front. Father in law had 1 and you did not need power steering on it. I sure hope you have fun with it.
Edited by HD6GTOM - 10 Nov 2019 at 9:36pm
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Posted: 10 Nov 2019 at 9:14pm |
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Sweet looking machine!
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Michael V (NM)
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Posted: 10 Nov 2019 at 8:52pm |
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Good lookin original,, just a little buffing on there and it will shine like a diamond! I have a early '45 that also has a "3 bolt" WFE, it is a dual fuel LP/gasoline
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Posted: 10 Nov 2019 at 8:41pm |
My 1954 has a 3 bolt front axle as well. Great looking original tractor there. I would not worry about that dent in the tank. If that is the worst thing that has happened in its life, it has had a good life compared to many others I've seen!
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Posted: 09 Nov 2019 at 6:08pm |
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Mine is number 175421 so close to that one. Has the same 3 bolt front end. And it is all original.
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Alberta Phil
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Posted: 09 Nov 2019 at 9:27am |
Thanks for the comments. I'm pretty happy with this tractor. I may install my loader and blade on this one and semi retire the old WD which has been working hard for the last 25 years!
I'll have a go at removing the dent. After all, my specialty is auto body restoration and repair so no stranger to removing dents!
I'll check out the existing gennie to see if it's OK when I put a new 6V battery back in. I have a rebuilt gennie on the shelf ready to go if it isn't
All my Allis tractors are still original six volt systems and I usually don't have any starting issues. The only one that was hard to turn over was my WD with a slightly modified WD45 engine. That was solved by having Steve at B&B build me a special 6 V starter that spins 'er over like it's on 12 volts!
Edited by Alberta Phil - 09 Nov 2019 at 9:30am
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Posted: 09 Nov 2019 at 9:10am |
I would think that a little compressed air would fix the dent in the gas tank. Just turn the gas valve off first.
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Posted: 09 Nov 2019 at 8:08am |
JC(WI) wrote:
with a WD front end. Still looks nice.
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There s NOTHING WD about the front end. The 4 bolt wide front didn't come out till the 45 Diesel. It's kinda like saying a curved shifter is a 45 transmission, when they came out on the WD 2 years, and nearly 20,000 tractors before the 45 was built.
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Posted: 09 Nov 2019 at 7:48am |
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The hand crank works well for many of these dents. The generator can be rebuilt as a 12 volt should you decide to keep it as 12 volt.
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Posted: 08 Nov 2019 at 10:19pm |
That is a nice WD45. Like the paint on it. Leave it be. I was lucky also this summer. I found this 1956 WD45 and was the first caller on it. I finally found a 45 in decent shape and it has factory PS, belt pulley and lift arm couplers. Its been repainted and not a show tractor but thats fine with me. I like the aged look. I've been picking away at it, cleaned carb, fuel tank, new plugs, engine oil change and hydraulic oil change. Lift arms have an issue with the pump keeping them in the up position but I'll fix that. Love this old girl. I grew on on a WD. The 45 was my dream tractor to own.  
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Posted: 08 Nov 2019 at 9:46pm |
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Whew, beautiful looking tractor!
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