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klinemar 
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Posted: 28 Oct 2019 at 7:23pm |
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My 026 Stihl saw gave up Saturday! Gave me 26 years good service. Checked the compression and got 92 psi. Book says 125 is low! Called the Stihl dealer and for him to rebuild $350. I looked up what I figured the saw would need and had $175-200. New 261C saw is $585. I bought a CS 490 Echo for $349+ tax. I will rebuild the 026 this summer for a spare. Need to cut wood now! Today was the first day cutting with the Echo. It cuts and is lightweight which I like! Time will tell how it holds up. One thing about the color,it matches my Allis Chalmers tractors and Kubota RTV!
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Hubert (Ga)engine7
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Posted: 28 Oct 2019 at 8:54pm |
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The Echo should be a good saw for you. If we had a good dealer around here I would not be afraid to buy one. I traded off my one of my little Poulans for a Jonsered 625. Need to take it to the woods and get some firewood.
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DMiller
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Posted: 29 Oct 2019 at 5:28am |
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The intent is to make repair parts too expensive to retain the OLD Saws, buy New Replacement Saws and keep industry flowing. Sorry to say it does work.
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ACinSC
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Posted: 29 Oct 2019 at 6:16am |
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Had a Poulan chain saw that would not start . Shop also told me that the compression was low and it wasn't worth fixing . Sold me a new Echo saw . đ¤ Thanks
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 29 Oct 2019 at 6:27am |
I've got TWO Poulan 18" here AND 2 Poulan leaf blowers, all 'ran when parked' NONE start now,and a Stihl weedwacker hoping I get $150 for the lot to help pay for ONE new saw. I have to wait for Mr. Sun to wakeup first though, so I can take pictures. So WHEN is Spring coming back ????
BTW EVERYTHING today is made to NOT be worth fixin, keeps 'them' in business....
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Posted: 29 Oct 2019 at 7:34am |
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Ya my Poulan wouldn't start either. Finally got to looking at it. Pulled the spark plug I could turn the ceramic part with my fingers before pulling the plug The new plug and plug socket I bought in 1986 when I got the saw were still in the package. Put the plug in and it runs great.
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klinemar
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Posted: 29 Oct 2019 at 8:30am |
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I checked compression with my tester. I called the Stihl Dealer who estimated cost over the phone. I looked up what I felt was the parts needed to repair as I haven't tore the saw down. And yes there are unscrupulous dealers and replacement parts are expensive. I haven't had a lot of time to cut wood as I detest cutting wood in the rain as that is all it has done here since spring!
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ocharry
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Posted: 29 Oct 2019 at 10:38am |
Klinemar,,,,i dont think that just because you have 92 pounds of compression is the problem,,,that saw should run there,,,will it have the power it should have,,,,,no but it should run
have you check the fuel line and filter?? maybe the carb got some weee tiny little piece of crud in it or a piece of the old fuel line that is breaking down
i think you should change the plug and put a new fuel line and filter on it and see what happens,,,i bet it will run
i dont trust to many dealers,,,,some are honest,,,some just dont want to work on the older saws,,,reason i say that is it took my old husky in to be worked on a long time ago and the dealer told me the motor was junk,,,he wanted to sell a new saw,,,i took the old saw home and put the stuff i told you on myself,,,cost was then around 12-15 bucks,,,,well im still using that old saw 15 years later
i just picked up another old husky,,,guy said it wont run,,,got it for a song,,,rebiult the carb,,put new plug,,new fuel line and filter on it,,,cost today was around 25,,,i used it saturday,,cut about a cord of wood,,,ran great
yeah parts are hard to find for the older saws....ebay is your friend for that
so just because the saw shop wanted to sell you a new saw and a jacked up price to work on your saw,,,,naw,,,,get that old saw singing again,,,,it will prolly still work the donkey off a new one
now this advice and opinion is worth exactly what you paid for it,,,and my .02
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Posted: 29 Oct 2019 at 7:13pm |
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Thanks OCHarry. I will rebuild the 026 this summer as that will give me time to find the best price on parts. As I stated I needed a saw!
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Posted: 29 Oct 2019 at 7:40pm |
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I have owned an Echo for many years. It always starts and runs good. If it isn't snowing next week I will be using it.
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Posted: 29 Oct 2019 at 7:51pm |
Be careful. You get what you pay for. A lot of aftermarket parts are junk. Meteor makes excellent pistons Caber for rings. Figure out why it scored in the first place .
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Posted: 30 Oct 2019 at 12:02pm |
The 490 should be a good saw. I have 2 of the little 310's and have cut acres of brush with them. I also use an old cs-8000 on my Alaskan lumber attachment to skin bigger logs down so they fit the bandmill. ---Right now the old saw runs/cuts on 70 psi compression. --I know it needs a new piston/jug, but for the little I use it I get along fine with it. I was given a Sthil ms 250 that wouldnt start and the dealer said there was nothing wrong with it!-- well the owner got pissed off at it and gave it to me to get rid of it. This saw didn't have 10 hours run time on it. ---2 years later I finally stumbled onto the problem and today it starts/runs fine.
All brands have that "dud - of - the - batch, and some of them can never be fixed. I have Poulan, Mac's, Huskies, Echo's and Homelites. All have good models, and all have bad models. --- I was never partial to any specific brand. If they start/run/cut, I'm a happy camper!
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Posted: 30 Oct 2019 at 5:18pm |
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Just bought a Sthil 250, great saw, lighter weight than the 38 FB and was a great buy
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Posted: 30 Oct 2019 at 7:10pm |
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So AC, what was the problem you 'stumbled' onto with that little 250?
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Posted: 31 Oct 2019 at 12:11am |
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Yeah AC, don't keep us hanging!
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Posted: 31 Oct 2019 at 4:23pm |
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Echo makes good stuff. I have three line trimmers and a blower made by them. You ask why I have three line trimmers. One was dad's he bought in 1985. I liked it so much I bought one in 1986. Both still run. I wanted more power and a straight shaft so there came the third one.
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Posted: 31 Oct 2019 at 7:23pm |
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I am not color blind. My first chainsaw was a Homelite XL12. Then came a McCullough Super Pro 70. Next was the Stihl 026 and a 460 which 4 years ago my son dropped a tree on so I bought the 461. Now I bought a Husqvarna 240 for trimming and to use around building projects. It is a cheap saw and I don't foresee it lasting long . I just bought the Echo CS 490 to use until I can rebuild the 026 and after running the Echo I believe I made a mistake buying the Husqvarna!So as you can see I am not color blind!
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Posted: 01 Nov 2019 at 8:03am |
 ac fleet wrote:
I was given a Sthil ms 250 that wouldnt start and the dealer said there was nothing wrong with it!-- well the owner got pissed off at it and gave it to me to get rid of it. This saw didn't have 10 hours run time on it. ---2 years later I finally stumbled onto the problem and today it starts/runs fine. |
Well??? Don't keep us hanging!
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Posted: 01 Nov 2019 at 8:08am |
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Come on Teddy go on a rant about it being the wrong brand!!!
And tell us about those 100 saws you used to cut down the National Forest.
Edited by 200 10and20 - 01 Nov 2019 at 8:10am
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Posted: 01 Nov 2019 at 10:49am |
200 10and20 wrote:
Come on Teddy go on a rant about it being the wrong brand!!!
And tell us about those 100 saws you used to cut down the National Forest. |
You still flogging this poor horse? What's your problem? Dude, just let it go. Sheesh.
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Posted: 01 Nov 2019 at 10:57am |
yep i agree ,,,,stop being a dickhead,,,,get off teds back ,,,give it a rest,,,,you had your fun,,,so leave it alone
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Posted: 01 Nov 2019 at 2:12pm |
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Stihl seem very good at making parts obsolete so can't fix saws and some of them not very old models. With some help from professional saw forums, can adapt parts like electronic ignitions from later models in some cases.
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Posted: 01 Nov 2019 at 8:43pm |
200 10and20 wrote:
Come on Teddy go on a rant about it being the wrong brand!!!
And tell us about those 100 saws you used to cut down the National Forest. |
200 you really don't know how little we care about your opinions!
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Posted: 02 Nov 2019 at 2:31pm |
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Klinemar, there is some stuff called Start that is quite remarkable.Put fuel in your saw and add what it calls for on the can. Choke it until fuel is running out the exhaust. Set it down for an hour or so. Don't choke it and see if it starts. Repeat if necessary. I don't know how many I've used it on. Sure does save a lot of expense and time.
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Posted: 02 Nov 2019 at 5:06pm |
This is news from 2008, I don't know if it is still happening today.
John Deere and STIHL Announce Agreement to Expand Retail Relationships | STIHL USAPress Contact:
Anita Gambill
(757) 486-9100 All other inquiries:
STIHL Incorporated
(757) 486-9100 (Virginia Beach, Va.)â STIHL Inc. and John Deere announced today a joint agreement that will permit John Deereâs qualified servicing dealers to carry the STIHL line of handheld outdoor power equipment (OPE) in their stores. âWe are very pleased to announce that our equipment has been selected as the âpreferred brandâ of John Deere,â said STIHL Inc. President, Fred Whyte. The agreement was made between the two OPE manufacturers and outlines that STIHL will be available in the stores of John Deere dealers. âJohn Deereâs reputation for manufacturing quality products and providing outstanding service at the dealer level aligns with our long-standing commitment to product quality and top-notch service,â said Whyte. âThere are already more than 500 John Deere dealers that currently sell our products throughout the U.S. and Canada, so this is a natural extension of our business model. Additionally, this agreement is totally consistent with the existing pricing, terms and policies of our Branches and Distributors.â The agreement allows the iconic status of these two outdoor power equipment titans to extend their product, service and brand strengths to a larger number of servicing outdoor power equipment dealers across North America. About STIHL Inc.
STIHL Inc. manufactures the worldâs largest selling brand of chainsaws and produces a full line of powerful, lightweight, and versatile handheld outdoor power equipment for homeowners and professional users. STIHL products are sold through servicing power equipment retailers from coast to coastâ not mass merchants. For more information or for the name of the closest STIHL retailer visit the STIHL Web site at https://www.stihlusa.com/index.html. For information on job opportunities with STIHL Inc., please go to http://www.stihlcareers.com/. STIHL is an EEO and drug-free work environment.
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