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Tcmtech ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 15 Apr 2015 Location: Minot ND Points: 310 |
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The only AC related parts dealer when have in our area is the big Butler machinery dealer and by every word of the guys at the parts desk they did not want the job.
It was some upper level decisions to take it on in our area. No one else wanted to stake claim to Agco AC/MF and it shows in the lack of service and high markup on what parts they can get. If you can't fix it yourself with salvage yard parts or with what you can find and order from online sources you're boned.
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Dan73 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Jun 2015 Location: United States Points: 6054 |
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You will just have to use the supplies and classified page here. I am sure they can get you everything you need.
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Ky.Allis ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Location: Kentucky Points: 1021 |
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For 10 years I was a salesperson at the only dealer in KY. that sold both JD and Kubota. Rule of thumb: if a 100 Hp. JD tractor would do the job then you need a 120 Hp. Kubota to do the same work. The mechanics always said the Kubota had a Volkswagon clutch in them. I've been gone from that job for 8 yrs. now(thank goodness) and now tend my farm with a 200 and a D-17. Starting to see several new Kubotas (90-120 Hp.) around here and most farmers who buy them trade them in after 1 year for the next size bigger. Makes you wonder if they are such a good deal after all.
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Michael V (NM) ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: NM Points: 2453 |
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So far, Livingston Machine is still alive and well here in Dalhart TX
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victoryallis ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 15 Apr 2010 Location: Ludington mi Points: 2878 |
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What Kubota dealer? |
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8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760
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Tcmtech ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 15 Apr 2015 Location: Minot ND Points: 310 |
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It not a new thing and it doesn't just happen with Kubota's or tractors in general. ![]() They all have hope that the smaller machine will be just capable enough to barely do the work most of the time and thus save them some money up front.
I worked at a local welding supply store as a service tech and if the guys buying the Kubotas were anything like the farmers here were when buying welders and plasma cutters they knew what they needed then came in and bought the one model smaller (because it would save them a few bucks) only to find out that it wasn't up to handling the job and would be back later to trade it in towards the right size machine that would do the work they needed it to do. ![]() It was at least a weekly occurrence. Buy a machine rated for 1/4" steel work then find out it really sucks on 3/8" stuff and come back later and trade the undersized one in for the right one thus costing them more in the end than had they bought the bigger one to begin with. ![]() Given that I can totally see people buying a 80 HP tractor when they need a 100+ and coming back later to trade the 80 for a the 100+ happen. It'snot just a Kubota thing. It's a every manufactures thing. |
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BrianC ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 16 Jun 2011 Location: New York Points: 1619 |
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Who has the longest drive to their dealer?
Imagine it is already a 100 mile trek to your small Kubota dealer. Then they get the corporate boot. Now you have to deal with the big dealer 200 miles away. That is bad bad news. Remember when every small town had three tractor dealers? And tractors are just a part of it, I have spend more for implements in the last 5 years than for tractors. And even a small dealer is good for that. |
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Tcmtech ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 15 Apr 2015 Location: Minot ND Points: 310 |
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~12 miles and I used to work there and they are a primary dealer and service center so they won't be getting shut down anytime soon. ![]() Now that the drunk little troll they had running the service center is gone I have often considered reapplying for a job there. ![]() As for small town that depends on what you define as s small town. Most anything in this area with a population of over 1500 has at least one implement dealership that caters to various brands outside their primary one. If I wanted to spend the money the nearest small town (~1200 people) implement dealership and service center would be happy to work on my 1940's AC M crawler for me. It may not be their brand but they work on other stuff too.
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timr ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 09 Jun 2014 Location: missouri Points: 73 |
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I'm 25 miles from a Massey dealer, CIH dealer, New Holland dealer, 2 Mahindra dealers and surrounded by 3 big Deere dealers. I've seen a couple new Massey or Challengers around but Deere dominatest around here with probably 90% of the equipment being theirs. I know people though who are running to all those stores and more to track down parts during a breakdown which still takes up alot of time. Last week on my way home I was surprised to see a S77 Gleaner in a field. The nearest Gleaner dealership to where that farm was would be over an hour.
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CrestonM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8452 |
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You're kidding!!!! That was our closest dealer, and it was 50 miles away! Crap... They'd always been an Allis dealer until Livingston took them over. Grandpa said they sold a lot of Gleaners at the Altus dealership back in the day. Now we get to go 70 miles to Livingston in Chickasha. Ugh...
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CrestonM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8452 |
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A friend of mine said a town about 10 miles from us had: JD, A-C, MM, MF, Oliver, Ford, and probably a couple others all within a few miles of each other! There's also a rumor that when the MM dealership burned, a propane MM was inside with the fuel on (Magneto tractor). He said the fire heated the engine up, caused the propane in the engine to combust, the tractor started (in gear) and drove itself out of the dealership on melted tires. Not sure how plausible that is, but that's the rumor.
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joe ![]() Bronze Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Nov 2009 Location: SW Ontario Points: 152 |
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So by the sounds of it, the good news is that AGCO didn't shut them down. The bad news is that the area is now without an AGCO dealership.
As for the mindless banter about Kubota. If it was really that crappy of product, would they continue to gain ground? The tractors aren't typically sold for field work. You find me a John Deere made today that is as heavy as a Deere built 50 years ago. Kubota is no different. Most people don't want a 10000lb 80hp tractor to clean their barn out and pick up bales. No longer is a 50hp tractor a main field tractor. ADD TO THAT, I've never thought of the D15, 190 or 200,etc as heavy tractors. Look up the Nebraska test for the D17 gas and a Kubota M5030. simliar HP but the Kubota weighs more w/o ballast.
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JohnCO ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Niwot Colo Points: 8992 |
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I'm not positive, but I think there are more Kubota dealers in Colorado then any other brand. With the Case/NH dealership in northern Colo loosing the NH line, people have to drive near a hundred miles for parts. Supposed to be an other dealer taking up NH but that was supposed to happen over a month ago. A salesman at the dealership told me the Kubota line they sold had much better prices, financing and less customer complaints then Ford. He really misses the NH haying line though, going to push the Case and Kubota brands more now. I think the CaseIH haying equipment is NH painted red anyway but they don't have bale wagons or big balers.
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timr ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 09 Jun 2014 Location: missouri Points: 73 |
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They're the same company now and have been for 15 years. The tractors are built in the same plants. CNH have a large parts distribution center an hour north of me. |
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JohnCO ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Niwot Colo Points: 8992 |
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I know they are the same company but they have different management for the brands. The Ford/New Holland group pulled the dealership from G & M Equipment with three stores in Northern Colorado. The Case/IH group is still happy with G & M. I heard from a salesman that F/NH was unhappy because they weren't selling enough tractors, even tho they were the biggest NH hay equipment dealer in the state. They took on Kubota maybe 15 years ago and sell two or three times more Kubota's as they do Case/NH-F/NH. Now that Kubota has bigger tractors, I suspect they will sell even more unless Fiat decides to make better deals on their machines.
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