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    Posted: 13 Feb 2017 at 7:41am
How many people would like a narrow front 190, 180 or 170? If so what would you pay for one?
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2x I debate making my farmall h a wide front end. Too many side hills here.
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I didn't grow up in a row crop area, so narrow fronts went out of style years ago, so all that I was ever used to seeing was wide fronts. To me (and of course, only my opinion) narrow fronts just look funny. Kind of like cabs. Up here in my frozen tundra, cabs were a Godsend to people, and that is what I am used to. Open stations on newer tractors just seem like they are missing something. I am certainly not taking anything away from anyone's narrow front or open station, just saying that it's kind of relevant to what a person is used to. Darrel
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You couldnt give me one. I like C  and WD sized narrow fronts But I also like wide fronts. The narrow front tractors were used alot when I was a kid .  We cultivated crops and mowed hay with them.  we used the wide fronts for all the road work since you didnt have to fight keeping the tractor straight on all the field roads. I didnt even like the narrow front D17s I thought they looked wierd.
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I'd like to have both a 190 and an XT with a NF and diesel engines just to have them. The series 2 and 3 tractors just look cool with the NF but I wouldn't pay much more then what a wide front tractor is worth.
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I'd like a narrow front 190 to go with our narrow front 180.
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I wouldn't want to use one much.
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One each please. I have a dollar here somewhere.
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It would be cool to have just for the sake of collecting as they are much less common but I don't really care for the look of them on those tractors. I like my narrow front old tractors like my Farmall F-20 and H and letter series like the Allis WD an C but I'm not a fan of the big more square tractors with a narrow front. They don't look right being that large; looks like an elephant on a beach ball as they say.
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Think an Allis 190XT Narrow Front would be pretty slick on a Snow blower in the winter time, would really turn short. Someone on You tube has an Oliver 1800/1900 series NF on a blower and it was pretty maneuverable. I would not mind owning one. I would take a High Crop 190/ 190XT before a NF though, just because I think the Allis Hi- Crop tractors look cool.
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Often a narrow front wheel assembly will turn nearly 90 degrees from straight ahead and with some help from the inside rear wheel brake will turn essentially pivoting on the center of the rear axle. That can be handy some places. At the same time the tip over pivot for the front of the tractor is at ground level, where its the front axle pivot bolt for all the wide front tractors which makes it easier to tip a narrow front tractor over from an unbalanced loader load or working sideways on a slope. It can be important to work slopes only up and down the slope, never trying to stay level on the slope and more important with a narrow front than a wide front. That is not to say a wide front won't tip on a steep enough slope but a narrow front will tip sooner. Spreading out the rear wheels if the crop will allow it and/or adding rear wheel weights can help the lateral stability of any tractor.

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After running them, I would not want another narrow front. Ride too rough, etc.
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but they look cool
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Anyone on here own a 190 or 190XT with the single front tire?   
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Originally posted by Stan IL&TN Stan IL&TN wrote:

One each please. I have a dollar here somewhere.
I got you beat HANDS DOWN!!  I got a $5 bill for EACH ONE YOU CAN get for me.  I'll have Shameless pick them up and he'll deliver them for me......he OWES me.....BIG time!!!
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Well he will probably pick them up that part is right....
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I would love a 180! I want to find a D19 narrow front for a different project.
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I forget names, but who had the 200 and the 6080 nf"s? I would like a 200 nf around the grain bins.
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I would like one some day. I like the looks of high hp narrow front tractors and like them in the field as well. I have a narrow front 4020,2510 and two 3020's. Went to school with a friend who had a narrow front 190. Local Deere dealer sold five 4320's with narrow fronts and there was a MF 1100 or 1130 used on a neighbors TMR mixer. The narrow front 190's would be out of my price range but have given a little though about if you could use the front steering parts out of a Deere 4020 and adapt them over into the 190. You could even add a rollomatic frontend. Anyone think it would work? Tom
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I "think" that it was Matt Folkers that had the NF 200.
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i'll bet $1. that no company now a days have the tooling for a narrow fronted tractor!
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Originally posted by shameless (ne) shameless (ne) wrote:

i'll bet $1. that no company now a days have the tooling for a narrow fronted tractor!
I'll bet $2!
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Andy Gubbels had the beautiful NF 200. Think it was sold on Mecum auction.
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That's who it was, Andy! Wink
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No interest in doing that to a newer era tractor. I farmed with a narrow front Farmall M. In my opinion, it was a great chore tractor in tight places - not mud though. I did not care for it in row crop work either - plow, disc, harrow, planting, cultivating, mowing, raking, & baling.   
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That is a picture of my tractor in the yard I took several years ago. It showed up one other time on some site. I don't know where the picture is coming from. I must have posted it somewhere in the past. Just curious where you found that picture.  I think those were some of the best looking tractors AC built. 
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Js case, that tractor is a beauty. I think they look tough with a nf. Grew up with nf's. It was all we had. You can turn em on a dime and work tight places if you need too. Better than a wide front. Far as bein more dangerous than a wide front, you just need to think about what you're doin and use a little common sense.
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Originally posted by js case js case wrote:

That is a picture of my tractor in the yard I took several years ago. It showed up one other time on some site. I don't know where the picture is coming from. I must have posted it somewhere in the past. Just curious where you found that picture.  I think those were some of the best looking tractors AC built. 
just did a Google search for narrow front 190 tractors and it pops up with a few others. I love the looks of those tractors especially with fat tires on the back.
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