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Iso single action high pressure low volume cylinde

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    Posted: 10 May 2020 at 12:07pm
Iso single action high pressure low volume cylinder to run wheel disk behind wd45 thanks for the help in advance
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Just put any cylinder that will fit on it. All the talk about a high pressure cylinder is 100% "BS". Have done it for years with no problems.
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I'll just convert a double action by installing vent thanks
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especially if you go to hold position after stroking.
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Well, in defense of the hydraulic cylinder builders, back in the days of AC high pressure system (3400 to 3700 psi), an "M" Farmall was I believe only 1,000 psi, so he&& yes, there was a difference in them. But, today's modern cylinders are far better than that. If you are a sharp operator, you can tell when the disc is almost to the top and just return the lift/lower lever to hold. It will only spike at high pressure when it hits the top and then a couple seconds later.
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re: All the talk about a high pressure cylinder is 100% "BS". Have done it for years with no problems.

kinda like playing Russin Roulette.......

A good 1000PSI cylinder will be tested at 3000# ( typically 3x the rated normal pressure), same as air tanks ( 300# tank, tested at 900# )

plumb a worn 1000# cylinder to a real good 3800PSI pump... cycle it a few times...
it'll blow, eventually, same as Russian Roulette..

a 1500# cylinder would be burst tested at 4500#....maybe....
and just WHERE was the cylinder made ???
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Your big bolted together cylinders will be slow to lift plus after using for a while. It will stretch the bolts to where it will blow end seals.          MACK
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I have some used Factory high pressure AC cylinders available. One of them is a 2 way. You can email me directly at: the1orangewizard@gmail.com



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How do you tell a high pressure cylinder from a low pressure one?
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you'd hope the cylinder has some kind of MFRs part number on it.....
BTW a couple hydraulic sites say the burst ( test) pressure is 4X !! not the 3X I was lead to believe....
so a 1000# cylinder 'shouldn't ' fail at 4000PSI which is more than most A-C pumps put out...
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Where are you at in Ohio?  I'll check, I might have one. 
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Originally posted by jaybmiller jaybmiller wrote:

re: All the talk about a high pressure cylinder is 100% "BS". Have done it for years with no problems.

kinda like playing Russin Roulette.......

A good 1000PSI cylinder will be tested at 3000# ( typically 3x the rated normal pressure), same as air tanks ( 300# tank, tested at 900# )

plumb a worn 1000# cylinder to a real good 3800PSI pump... cycle it a few times...
it'll blow, eventually, same as Russian Roulette..

a 1500# cylinder would be burst tested at 4500#....maybe....
and just WHERE was the cylinder made ???

A "worn" cylinder??? About the only thing I ever saw worn was the seals, ….which BTW would bleed a little pressure! LOL I've got cylinders around the farm that are probably 60 years old. I did have an old cast iron cylinder split LENGTHWISE when the tail wheel of a plow slammed over a rock or something. Didn't know it until the end of the row when the plow wouldn't lift and oil sprayed all over the back of the tractor.
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Official A-C high pressure cylinders are never larger than 2 inch in bore diameter. In fact, I think 1 3/4" is the largest I remember.
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Allis hi pressure cyl are "skinny "compared to anything else. I know they made 2 different diameters. I have a couple of each but don't know diameters.
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Hi pressure screw together lo pressure usually bolt together.       MACK
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i would bet the pump isnt putting out anymore than 2000 anyways unless it has been worked on recently
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