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I smell trouble a brewin

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    Posted: 27 Jun 2023 at 5:15am
A friend called me Sunday after noon and informed me that there is an old machine shop full of tools coming up for sale right here in Eureka Springs. He told me who to go see to find about the stuff.
I poured a couple stair landings after work yesterday. I had a couple hours to kill before I could edge and broom.
I jumped in ole silver and headed towards that old machine shop.
I was poking along and heard something under a tire. Soon I heard a hissing.
I found a flat concrete parking lot to park in with one shade tree.
I began the process of getting my spare down from under the bed for the first time in a very long time.
Changed the tire, went to get a good cold drink and went back to the job and broomed my slabs.
Was this a sign?
Well see

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In my world, that would be that little voice in my head saying: ‘I have better things to do than buy any of his stuff’.
I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.
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At least you got the &@##%{ tire down. Last year dad and I were on a farm equipment purchase trip. Trip wa 3:30 am until 8:30 pm. An hour and a half of that was changing a tire that picked up a lag bolt on the side of the road. An hour in, I got out the owners manual to see if I was doing something wrong. I wasn’t. But what I found amazing was as in the manual there was a “Plan B” procedure for getting the tire lowered if their $&@##% system didn’t work. You basically jacked up through the center of the spare tire to break the latch on that cable system so the tire would lower. Had the back wheels off the ground beating on it and it wouldn’t fracture and lower. Finally asked dad (his truck) if he minded if he never used that tire carrier again! I took a pipe wrench and folded the ears over so it would fit through the wheel. Spare tire now takes up space in the bed!

Ironically, the tire I took off never did loose air! But not sure we wanted to listen to guh guh guh guh for 2 more hours. Only a 2009 truck so not that old and it wasn’t rusty, just a terrible system!!

Seems very telling that they had to put a backup plan in the owners manual!

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Originally posted by Tbone95 Tbone95 wrote:

At least you got the &@##%{ tire down. Last year dad and I were on a farm equipment purchase trip. Trip wa 3:30 am until 8:30 pm. An hour and a half of that was changing a tire that picked up a lag bolt on the side of the road. An hour in, I got out the owners manual to see if I was doing something wrong. I wasn’t. But what I found amazing was as in the manual there was a “Plan B” procedure for getting the tire lowered if their $&@##% system didn’t work. You basically jacked up through the center of the spare tire to break the latch on that cable system so the tire would lower. Had the back wheels off the ground beating on it and it wouldn’t fracture and lower. Finally asked dad (his truck) if he minded if he never used that tire carrier again! I took a pipe wrench and folded the ears over so it would fit through the wheel. Spare tire now takes up space in the bed!

Ironically, the tire I took off never did loose air! But not sure we wanted to listen to guh guh guh guh for 2 more hours. Only a 2009 truck so not that old and it wasn’t rusty, just a terrible system!!

Seems very telling that they had to put a backup plan in the owners manual!

TBone I guarantee you I’ll never put that spare back down under there.
I cinched that cable back up enough it won’t rattle.
In the bed it goes.
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I love my chevy truck but I sure would like to meet up with the engineer that came up with that system. I was told it was a response to spares coming off while being hauled on a car hauler. Well they sure solved that problem!!!
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Originally posted by Pat the Plumber CIL Pat the Plumber CIL wrote:

I love my chevy truck but I sure would like to meet up with the engineer that came up with that system. I was told it was a response to spares coming off while being hauled on a car hauler. Well they sure solved that problem!!!
yeah, instead the cable rusts out and breaks and the tire comes flying out from under you while going down the road. BTDT.
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Yeah , I also had a bad experience with those . Wife picked up a nail in her Tahoe tire . Dumb me I took the spare off and put it on while the other tire was getting repaired . Had a heck of time getting the spare back under there . U tube videos helped me figure it out . Luckily it was at home . This was about 2011 , guess they're still a pain ?
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I went by and left my phone number yesterday.
I saw the building the machines are in.
The building is 1800’s era right next to the old ice house.
I all part of the Train depot.
I saw a large overhead track sticking out the door of that building. I wonder if that was for moving ice blocks or the machine tools?
Could be both.
The machines are supposedly WW2 era.
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I lowered the spare tire from under my Dodge when new undercoating/rustproofing the truck and never put it back under. That cable winch system did not work a year later and I cut it out from under the bed, and mounted an electric "Tulsa" cable winch in it's place with the winch "hook" running through a cable roller welded to the receiver hitch under the rear bumper, and a drum pull release linkage for "payout" of the cable on the left side of the license plate. Cole-Hersee weatherproof push buttons for function were/are mounted to the driver's interior bed side.

Figured the spare tire stowage design was a waste of engineering time myself but the space was still valuable for something else. I've mounted air tanks under guys' trucks when it wasn't so damned expensive to run stock cars around here, and another a large water tank which I think was used for fresh water for a slide in camper.

How many times you see someone on the roadside, phone in their hand calling someone because they cannot change a flat themselves? I do a lot. Just last week a seen a real pretty young man, (Flamer) alongside the roadway in a late model Mustang car on the phone while filing his fingernails setting in the air conditioning. I'm sure "daddy" or some other road service was on the other end of the phone call. I don't remember the temperature but it wasn't 80 degrees out yet as this was in the morning. 
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Originally posted by Thad in AR. Thad in AR. wrote:

I went by and left my phone number yesterday.
I saw the building the machines are in.
The building is 1800’s era right next to the old ice house.
I all part of the Train depot.
I saw a large overhead track sticking out the door of that building. I wonder if that was for moving ice blocks or the machine tools?
Could be both.
The machines are supposedly WW2 era.

Well,,Ole Bud,,,you Know I'd love to be walkin next to you when you do get to go look,in that machine shop,,, I feel most certain there are just a few items in that old machine shop I HAVE got to have,,,,,!!
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Originally posted by desertjoe desertjoe wrote:

Originally posted by Thad in AR. Thad in AR. wrote:

I went by and left my phone number yesterday.
I saw the building the machines are in.
The building is 1800’s era right next to the old ice house.
I all part of the Train depot.
I saw a large overhead track sticking out the door of that building. I wonder if that was for moving ice blocks or the machine tools?
Could be both.
The machines are supposedly WW2 era.


Well,,Ole Bud,,,you Know I'd love to be walkin next to you when you do get to go look,in that machine shop,,, I feel most certain there are just a few items in that old machine shop I HAVE got to have,,,,,!!
not long ago you were just a few doors down from that machine shop.
Turns out I’d have to get the key from one of my least favorite woke hippies on the planet.
I’ll not be going there.
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Can relate, was going to buy a Fifth Wheel RV to put behind my KW, then as we found ads the sellers were coy or too busy, one sold as we were driving to see it and they at least called.  Seems nothing worthy of buying or able to get to before is already gone.  Taking that along with the insidious rise of severity in health issues leading me OFF that path awhile.  Battling four Different maladies make hands go to sleep arms get weak or just a severe pain in one hip, all came to a hard head in last few months.
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Originally posted by Tbone95 Tbone95 wrote:

Originally posted by Pat the Plumber CIL Pat the Plumber CIL wrote:

I love my chevy truck but I sure would like to meet up with the engineer that came up with that system. I was told it was a response to spares coming off while being hauled on a car hauler. Well they sure solved that problem!!!
yeah, instead the cable rusts out and breaks and the tire comes flying out from under you while going down the road. BTDT.
Yup, I noticed mine in the rear view mirror just as I was going over a hill.  Good thing I look in my mirrors all the time!  You'd a thunk that it would have made a sound or bumped the truck somehow.  Huh,,,,Nope, nothing.......Angry


Thad, could be the one thing you are really looking for or a deal you can't resist.  Maybe the hippie guy is the building owner and the seller is absent?  I'd say worth a look see.....Wink
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The hippie guy doesn’t own any part of it.
The owner works on the road and leaves a key with him.
It’s the old original ice house from town which is connected to the original train Depot.
The owners family owns the Depot as well.
A lot of cool history from that place.
Was even a civil war skirmish on the property before the railroad was built.
The hippie is one of those woke activists.
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Well kick him/she/it in the,,,,,wait, I can't say that either!  Damn,,,,,,,,
IF instead of being WOKE, they were AWAKE,,,,,,,,,we wouldn't HAVE that problem.  Bunch a dumb azzes.....
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