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    Posted: 09 Dec 2023 at 4:58pm
Where can i find parts to rebuild my starter solenoid.
A new wheel and contacts. The starter is a delco 113714-9846.
Orginal i believe and its a 1959. It is the foot-push start
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If it has a solonoid on top of starter , many times one can reverse the contact wheel and the lug that makes contact . OR you replace the solonoid . 
Checking WALMART online - they have the repair kit . 
I have found WALMART Online sells parts way cheaper than Amazon and have ordered parts from their suppliers . https://www.walmart.com/ip/New-Starter-Solenoid-Switch-Repair-Kit-Compatible-With-Delco-SDR6204-247-12003-Silver-stationary-contacts/1212351322?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=101126811

New Starter Solenoid Switch Repair Kit Compatible With Delco Sdr6204 247-12003 Silver stationary contacts



Edited by Coke-in-MN - 09 Dec 2023 at 5:22pm
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Originally posted by Coke-in-MN Coke-in-MN wrote:

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I have found WALMART Online sells parts way cheaper than Amazon ...


Thanks for the tip, lots of good stuff there


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So replying to this post i had.
Question for same hd6 dozer

Can u ground out starter(hot side and ground side) to get dozer to turn over as long as batteries r up to charge?
What should be voltage be at starter before and while grounding out? No generator. Thought solenoid contacts where bad but we replaced.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tadams(OH) Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Jan 2024 at 9:51am
They have the stater solinoid for a AC CA for $12.94 and WD 45 for  $13.90

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Looking at the picture in your other post - the starter is a mechanical engagement to advance the starter drive into ring gear . Jumping across the 2 terminals will engage just the motor section to run but not advance the starter drive to turn engine . 
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Ok
When we jump terminals the starter doesn't do anything. There is voltage there to hot side of solenoid because there is plenty of spark when jumping.
Starter locked up?
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Could be, but the starter needs removed and sent into a competent shop for evaluation and/or repairs. Plethora of things come together to make the starter motor rotate and whether your problem is mechanical, or electrical in nature is hard to say from behind a computer screen. 
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Have you ensured the engine is not frozen, or locked up? Attempting to rotate an engine with the starter motor that is either tight, or frozen will take a starter motor out on short order. 
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Might be something as simple as brush contact with armature , bad brush springs  or bad brushes . Chances of being locked in - well could be but if the arm to starter drive moves free , it would kind of rule that out .
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Easy enough to remove the starter and turn over the engine 1/50 of a stroke with a crowbar. On my '58 HD6B with the 344ci Lanova cell Buda, if I take off the hydraulic pump, there's a spot on the crankshaft where I could turn it over if they made a 3" wide flat head screwdriver. Somebody made a screwdriver that big because I saw the pry marks.

You could also check the no-load condition of the starter if you have it removed. Pull it and leave it wired. Have a helper watch and listen for the Bendix moving and the motor rotating.

That should be enough to get you started. If you feel like blowing $400+ on a new Delco-Remy starter, I bought one a year ago, and it's as much of a beast as the old one. It's like a 15 year old welterweight beating up a 75 year old heavyweight. Almost as heavy and a lot stronger and faster. I wonder what they put in the feed anymore.
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