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DennisA (IL) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Ridott IL. Points: 2064 |
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Thanks & God Bless
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Ryan Renko ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Edwardsville, I Points: 2329 |
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Are they for a All Crop combine?? Ryan
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CrestonM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8452 |
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I say All-Crop related.
Top one looks like a slug bar.
Bottom looks like a rod used to break up grain that sticks in the hopper. A buddy has rods that look exactly like that on both his L3 and M2. I need to make some for my All-Crops. Combining some damp Milo last year, it plugged the bin at the very last when unloading. Being safe, I shut off the tractor PTO first, then I almost had to crawl all the way in the bin, head first, to get it loosened up. Not too fun. Edited by CrestonM - 12 Nov 2016 at 8:40pm |
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Joe(OH) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Montezuma, Ohio Points: 991 |
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Bottom one is for raising the straw hood on an all crop.
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Life is simpler when you plow around the stump.
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Lars(wi) ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Permian Basin Points: 7812 |
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That bottom one looks like what is used for raising the dock plates at a freight loading dock.
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I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.
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EricPA ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Watsontown,PA. Points: 2578 |
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Or a fifth wheel puller |
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Life is tough,but it's tougher when you're stupid. - John Wayne
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Dale Hardtke ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Watertown WI Points: 170 |
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1st one---- To adjust wide front on D series tractors
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shameless (ne) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Jul 2016 Location: nebraska Points: 7463 |
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I had a #2 one made, was real handy to help unplug green stem beans outta the beater on my "K" combine.
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Ted J ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Location: La Crosse, WI Points: 18923 |
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#1 looks like the pokers that Shameless makes.....only it's not pointed enough.
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19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
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TedBuiskerN.IL. ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Davis, IL. Points: 1959 |
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I KNOW, I KNOW! but I'm sworn to secrecy.
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Most problems can be solved with the proper application of high explosives.
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shameless (ne) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Jul 2016 Location: nebraska Points: 7463 |
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lol...that's just a dull one (used a lot) mine are sharper and longer now!
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Auntwayne ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 23 Apr 2011 Location: Edwardsville Il Points: 1589 |
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The rod is for the chopper hood. Need to get one, have never seen one with any combine before. Thanks for posting Dennis.
PS, I always used a rope if Ryan wasn't around. Duane
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Dad always said," If you have one boy, you have a man. If you have two boys, you have two boys". "ALLIS EXPRESS"
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CrestonM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8452 |
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Don't guess I understand what you mean. Can you explain?
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Auntwayne ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 23 Apr 2011 Location: Edwardsville Il Points: 1589 |
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Creston, there is a hole or a notch on the left side of the hood if you are standing on top of the combine, it is on the bottom of the hood. When standing over the hood, the hooked rod grabs (hooks) it and you pull it up all by yourself. The only ones that I have ever seen before today are in the set up manuals.
PS, I will send you a picture tomorrow.
Edited by Auntwayne - 13 Nov 2016 at 8:24pm |
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Dad always said," If you have one boy, you have a man. If you have two boys, you have two boys". "ALLIS EXPRESS"
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WD45Diesel57 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 20 Jul 2010 Location: Varna, Ont. Can Points: 646 |
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Those hooked rods seem like a hard thing to find, not sure how I ended up with two of them. Never knew what they are for, my 66 all crops have a welded loop on the front angle iron, I assume that where you hook the hood to lift?
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CrestonM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8452 |
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Why don't you just flip the hood up when standing on the ground?? Why climb up on top of the combine to do it??
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shameless (ne) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Jul 2016 Location: nebraska Points: 7463 |
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i'm with Creston on that one! that's what we always did, in fact we used the flat steel rod that holds the hood down as a handle to flip it up! Creston....maybe there were to many short people that couldn't do it that way? (designer included)
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CrestonM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8452 |
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I always use those flat steel rods too! I couldn't see short people climbing up on top of the combine too easily. I always climb on from the back, and at 6'3", it's easy for me, but I don't know how short people would like it. Sometimes it helps to have the combine hooked to a tractor or the back end blocked up. Occasionally the front end will come up when you climb on from the back.
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Ted J ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Location: La Crosse, WI Points: 18923 |
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Yeah Creston.....and YOU are a LIGHT weight compared to a lot of us...
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ac160 ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 02 Dec 2010 Points: 397 |
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2nd one looks like what you use to pull sickles out of a sickle mower with.
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WD45 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Location: STAYNER,ONTARIO Points: 954 |
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The rod - short one was used to turn the cylinder over when one plugged the cylinder. You opened the side door behind the cylinder and pulled as much straw out of the cylinder while turning the cylinder back and forth until the cylinder was freed up.
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shameless (ne) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Jul 2016 Location: nebraska Points: 7463 |
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that's right 45...there was a hole in that cyl shaft to do that....forgot about that.
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 12016 |
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#1, poker
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JimIA ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Castalia Iowa Points: 1983 |
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Have them both myself. The pointed one I am guessing to use to unplug the combine. Have a few used ones and a NOS one. The used ones are bent pretty well! lol
The second one is to pull the straw hood down on 66s, there's a loop in the hood that the tool slides in. At this current second I don't recall if any other machines had the loop on the straw hood? Jim |
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An open eye is much more observant than an open mouth
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CrestonM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8452 |
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Yep, #1 is a slug bar, but ALL the All-Crops I've seen have Stillson wrench teeth marks on the cylinder shafts!
Like Jim said, the ones that came with the combines probably got bent up! Edited by CrestonM - 14 Nov 2016 at 1:31pm |
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KY poorboy ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Aug 2015 Location: West KY Points: 933 |
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Creston, what is a Stillson wrench?
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CrestonM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8452 |
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Now listen here young whippersnapper, that's what we called 'em when I was a young'un, way back in 1935, yup. Nowadays y'all refer to them as pipe wrenches! I threw that in there to see how many people would ask what a Stillson was lol Grandpa still has an old one with a wood handle that has "Stillson" stamped on it! Edited by CrestonM - 14 Nov 2016 at 3:02pm |
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KY poorboy ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Aug 2015 Location: West KY Points: 933 |
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I didn't have my stick out doing any pokin. I honestly have never heard that term before. I figured that was what it was, but just wanted to know. It amazes me how many different areas have different names for things. As I was growing up in poor ole KY, they were called monkey wrenches. I just call em pipe wrenches.
When I started farming and looking for equipment, it made me no difference how far I went to get a good deal, so I looked everywhere. It took me a while to figure out what folks way down south called a "harrow". Here we just call it a disk. A harrow to me is a spike tooth drag, or something similar. Sooo,,, I was just curious. LOL |
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CrestonM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8452 |
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Yep! I knew you weren't poking. Many people don't know what a Stillson is, so you're not alone! It's kind of like a Crescent wrench. It's just a brand. Stillson=pipe wrench, Crescent=adjustable wrench.
Even in Oklahoma I've experienced different terms for brushhog. In NW OK, it's a beater. In the SW it's a shredder. In central OK it's a brushhog or a bush hog. Lol I have a grandpa in the SW, a grandpa in the NW, and all my friends here in the central region. I have to make sure and use the right term for the region I'm in, or no one understands what I'm saying! LOL
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DiyDave ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gambrills, MD Points: 53497 |
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Around here, a stillson wrench is like a pipe wrench, but has a locking lever, like vice grips.
Rarely use mine on pipes, less'n you absolutely, positively want to egg out the pipe in question. Really good at large stud removal, though... ![]() Edited by DiyDave - 14 Nov 2016 at 6:06pm |
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