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Gleaner G vs L

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    Posted: 07 Nov 2016 at 10:26pm
Are a G and an L about the same capacity? Just wondering. I thought the L replaced the G. 
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L had more cleaning capasity; for sure.   I've ran them both.
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A model G compared to a late F-2 or F-3 for capacity.
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G could thresh it but struggled to collect it they say.My A2 was a narrow version of a G.Never had any complaints on collecting grian it threshed.
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Originally posted by SteveM C/IL SteveM C/IL wrote:

G could thresh it but struggled to collect it they say.My A2 was a narrow version of a G.Never had any complaints on collecting grian it threshed.
That matches with what my dad said. He said when he was in high school (Before he went on a custom harvest run with a crew that had G's) another crew with G's harvested my great-granddad's wheat. He said the G's threw a lot out the back. Silver Seeders.

But...another guy said he had a G, and it was a real hog. He said it would just eat and eat, and he had very little loss. Guess it all varies. 
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For threshing and separator/cleaning capacity, the Models E-E3-K are the same and 3 walkers wide.   The model F and short F2 are 4 walkers wide.....the model G is 5 walkers wide. The model M actually replaced the model G, but was in reality bigger in all respects. An F-3 or late F-2 with wide tooth cylinder bars will make a G look pretty stupid in corn and soybeans.
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A,C&G were same design they just got wider.I would think if the right adjustments were done a G could be a hog.Got a JD buddy who talks about a G that ran in his neighborhood.It wasn't a collector either(but I know the guy who had it and he was RAMMY!).Claimed the greene 105 would kick it's butt...
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A and C and G were similar in mainshaft designs, but you can remove a walker from a G and install it in a K or F. The A and C walkers were an inch or two wider.
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I've run (2) G's, and both of them were crop eaters! they did a great job of cleaning and NOT throwing very much out the back. back in their days, the "G" had more cleaning capacity than the green 7700's! at the time when I quit using my "G", I had changed to 30 inch corn and couldn't find a good 30 inch head for that years harvest. I thought I would have found one by the time harvest came around, but didn't. I still have both of them. plus they were a lot more stable on hills than other brands, with the wide stance they had. I was able to plant more steep ground to row crops than we could before and was able to harvest those hills without worrying about rolling the combine!
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Originally posted by SteveM C/IL SteveM C/IL wrote:

A,C&G were same design they just got wider.I would think if the right adjustments were done a G could be a hog.Got a JD buddy who talks about a G that ran in his neighborhood.It wasn't a collector either(but I know the guy who had it and he was RAMMY!).Claimed the greene 105 would kick it's butt...
Lots of guys claim lots of things. My Uncle Bob had a G and it was a great combine for him.
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another tid bit....around here the elevators discount your loads if they find weed seeds or small screenings in the samples they take. it ads up pretty fast! and so I bought a screener back in the '70s and screened everything before any grain went into our grain bin, or went direct to an elevator. if the grain had a little moisture, it took a lot less electricity to dry it down in the bin without the screenings clogging the air path. and there was no dockage at the elevators. and looking back, there was a lot less cracked grain from the "G" than there has been from my rotaries I've run since. stuff you usually don't see with the nekkid eye, and the samples taken at the elevator! I always kept the solid doors on all my combines, no sense in spreading any weed seed back out in a field. and my screenings never went to waste, as we would feed it to the poultry. those "G"s were great machines! I left the corn head on that combine, and it is still up, has never settled down to the ground!  
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Which L? Difference between first and last models fairly significant. Trev.
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Any model "L" is bigger than a model "G". And as far as the guy running the Deere 7700 and not outworking a G Gleaner, he must not have been in a hurry or didn't know how to set a combine.
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Doc....the reason for mentioning the 7700 deere combine, was the square inch cleaning capacity was larger on the "G"s than the early 7700 combines, you will find the comparison on file in the charts of that era.
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I'll have to look that up. The G compares to a long shoe F-2 square inches almost exactly( and has a much better cleaning fan), and a 7700 compares to an Gleaner L and an L is larger than a G. Unless the very early 7700's??(1970??) were smaller, cause the first L's were 1972.
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i'm not sure what year 7700's, but a dealer told me this, and I didn't believe it until I saw it personally in print of the camparisons of brands of combines! not that it really makes much difference now, nor did it to me back then! just a tid bit of info from that era.  
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Somewhere I have a Deere brochure comparing the 7700 and I think all the 00 series to the other makes including the G. I think it is dated 1971 or 1970. I'll see if'n I can break away from the election crap on the tube to give it a read tonight.
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Creston, the L was 48 inch, the G was 44. way more cleaning capacity, and most importantly, the open grate concave and front raddle, so the L was supposed to be much bigger.

The F and G were the same family, F was a narrow G with quite a few powertrain differences.

The A and C and A2 and C2 has the same relationship the F and G had, the G replaced the C2, F replaced A2.

The G was slightly challenged on airflow in the cleaning system. If you new how to set it, it was not an issue. I guess it has a pretty even airflow pattern at slower speeds, in talking to a guy, he said there is a grass seed company down there somewhere in OK that has 3 G diesel hydros that they do all their grass seed harvest with.

Dad allways did pinto beans with them and they did well. the F would usually outclean it though.

They were the first series of combine available with a hydro, IIRC first offered in 69 (G launched in 68) and the hydro setup had a simple mainshaft that would never have issues, unlike the gear drive with tapered splines which loved coming loose and taking a dump, so essentially the worst part about a G was not even present on a G hydro.

Little known fact, the black frame cornheaders widest width is to match the G, even though the G had been out of production for 5 years before the first black header was sold. 
During production, the biggest cornheaders offered were the 6R30 and 8R20. They get a little light with those and had frame weights available, as well as the "fat back" full cast rim and hub unitized assembly.
Gleaner: the properly engineered and built combine.

If you need parts for your Gleaner, we are parting out A's through L2's, so we may be able to help.
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