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Travis2766 
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Posted: 23 Apr 2024 at 6:14am |
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I am in the market for a bigger plow since I sold my 3 bottom. How many bottoms can I go comfortably with behind my 190XT diesel? I have very light sandy soil, I pull a 16’ field cultivator with an 18’ cart drag behind the 190 in my soil. I know the old saying of 20hp per bottom but I’d prefer to not pull the tractor too hard. Seems I can find 5 bottoms fairly cheap compared to 4 bottoms in my area. I think I could probably pull 6 bottoms but it’s going to harder on the tractor that I would like and I’m guessing I’d have traction issues. I don’t plow much, maybe 5 acres per year.
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DrAllis
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Posted: 23 Apr 2024 at 6:23am |
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5 x 16's extremely common on a 190XT and 200 tractor.
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Trinity45
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Posted: 23 Apr 2024 at 12:34pm |
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The guy down the road pulls 5 -`6's with his and seems to walk away with it. I know I pull 4-16's with my 185 with very little problems.
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Posted: 23 Apr 2024 at 1:03pm |
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I worked on a farm in Wisconsin in the ‘70s and the owner pulled 6-16’s with an on-land hitch and duals on his 190 XT. I think he had it ‘turned up’ a little, and was heavily weighted.
I think the 5-16s would be a good choice, and you don’t need an on-land hitch.
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DrAllis
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Posted: 23 Apr 2024 at 1:37pm |
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By my "old school" plow size formula (43 PTO HP will pull a 43 inch cut plow) The 94 HP mighty 190XT would pull 6 x 16's for 96 inches of cut. But at that time in history, farmers were wanting to plow a little deeper, so 5 x 16 was 80 inches of cut at a deeper plowing depth. A comparison of 6 x 16's x 5 inches deep would be the same as 5 x 16's at 6 inches deep for soil moved.
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Posted: 23 Apr 2024 at 6:05pm |
I had a set of 5 bottom (semi-mount) and Dad had a set of 4 bottom mounted (both AC) plows. In our heavy clay sod, my 7000 did a lot better with the 4 bottoms than it did with the 5 bottoms.
Soil type makes a huge difference when it comes to pulling plows.
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Posted: 24 Apr 2024 at 11:21am |
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Most of the One-Ninety XT's that were sold out of my dad's dealership were sold with 5-16" plows. Some may have been 4-16's if the farmer had mostly black gumbo. I never remember one being sold with a six bottom plow. Only D-21's and Two-Twenty's had 6 bottoms sold with them.
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Posted: 24 Apr 2024 at 8:07pm |
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5-16 would be fine. But I wonder, since you say 5 acres to plow, does it really matter 4 or 5 bottom? You'll be done in 30 minutes.
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Travis2766
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Posted: 28 Apr 2024 at 7:58pm |
 Orangeade wrote:
5-16 would be fine. But I wonder, since you say 5 acres to plow, does it really matter 4 or 5 bottom? You'll be done in 30 minutes. |
I have a lot of rocks, I definitely have to go slow. Still going to take a few hours!
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Posted: 30 Apr 2024 at 10:25am |
Travis2766 wrote:
Orangeade wrote:
5-16 would be fine. But I wonder, since you say 5 acres to plow, does it really matter 4 or 5 bottom? You'll be done in 30 minutes. |
I have a lot of rocks, I definitely have to go slow. Still going to take a few hours! |
Plow speed is imperative to which plow bottoms were specified/ordered. Here is a copy of page 8 from the Allis-Chalmers Monoframe Plows semi-mounted & pull-type plows, 70&80 series mounted plows sales brochure, Form No. AED 405-7605-R (May 1976). It list 4 different bottom styles; 386, 387, 392, 394. 
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Posted: 30 Apr 2024 at 10:31am |
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doin good to pull 3 bottoms here with my 190xtd! I got hard ground! lol!
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Posted: 30 Apr 2024 at 11:51am |
ac fleet wrote:
doin good to pull 3 bottoms here with my 190xtd! I got hard ground! lol! |
Sam thing here. Some of the ground in our area is heavy clay and hasn't been plowed in my memory. It takes power and weight to pull a plow in that.
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Posted: 01 May 2024 at 7:52am |
Orangeade wrote:
5-16 would be fine. But I wonder, since you say 5 acres to plow, does it really matter 4 or 5 bottom? You'll be done in 30 minutes. |
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If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere.
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