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Kansas99
Orange Level Access Joined: 26 Feb 2015 Location: W Kansas Points: 4806 |
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"They are still using chemicals in China that were banned in the US clear back in the 1960's." Yes but they banned taktic and I've heard of people boot legging it back from south of the border. I believe it's legal again under a new name and higher price, of course when you ban the safest miticide ever made for more dangerous ones that don't work and colony collapse hits, then they will bring back the old safe stuff. I was so green when I started with bees when I heard taktic, I thought they wanted me to go get the saddle out of the shed and check hives on horse back. Boy I'm sure glad I didn't need to do that me and horses have a rough history.
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GARY(OH/IN)
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Do beekeepers rent sites to put their hives if they don't have land or want to grow the business?
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WF owner
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When we had the farm, we had a local beekeeper that set hives every year. He was very good at putting them out of the our way. It was a win-win. We got pollinators and he got honey. When he picked them up in the fall, he always brought us some honey. The only incident we ever had was when I got a little too close to the hives with the discbine and bumped them. I had about hundreds of angry bees in the cab of the 7000 in seconds!
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DMiller
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Have a few Apiaries around our state, the people that run them arrange for spots to set hives as a benefit to the farms while the beekeeper makes money making honey. Three neighbors have hive sets on their places and beekeepers that attend them.
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Kansas99
Orange Level Access Joined: 26 Feb 2015 Location: W Kansas Points: 4806 |
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Got a neighbor in the county south of use that had a full section under irrigation planted to alfalfa, my partner was a class mate of his in school. The section had a abandoned feedlot on it so a nice rock road to set hives on and when we asked him if he would mind he seemed ok with it but a day later called and said he just didn't want any bees on his ground. So I called the neighbor across the road and of course he didn't mind. So 50 hives were about 100 ft from the other guys alfalfa. We called him back and told hem where they were but we couldn't control which direction they flew. There is around 7 quarters of alfalfa both dry and irrigated there within 2 miles at all different stages and something was always blooming. About 1/2 way into summer as the sweet clover dried up we eventually had something like 150 hives in that location, some of them were literally setting on the side of a dead end county road. No buddy could complain about the county right of way and the maintainer just graded the road up to them. I remember the night about 2am as I back unto that road with a 25ft gooseneck moving in hives and I accidentally hit a hive and knocked it off the pallet. We were running deep supers for honey supers as we needed built comb for splits after extraction so a full deep super of honey can weigh close to 90#. Anyways the hive was 7 supers high, honey and bees top to bottom and they were pissed. There was a young guy helping us that night and he was liking the bees till then, he had a full suit and still was getting them inside it. Only time I ever had them come after me at night on the skidloader. If I remember right the hive was Russian bees and they aren't quite as gentle as Italians. When we got back into the pickup the young guy said "boy that took the fun out of bees"
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Alberta Phil
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Neighbors of mine are one of the larger beekeeping operations in my area. Sandra Thiessen has come up with some very innovative ways of using honey. They sell there products world wide. Yes, I get my honey from them! Here is a link to their site" |
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Kansas99
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Phil, do they strictly do honey or do they take them south for pollination and/or maybe a easier winter as well?
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Walker
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No I meant pure, the bees have nowhere else to go for pollen other than the island itself. I believe it's advertised as purest in the world and costs accordingly.
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Alberta Phil
Orange Level Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Alberta, Canada Points: 3652 |
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Kansas99, I don't think they take them south. Most beekeepers in this area leave enough honey in the hives to overwinter them. They usually set up groups of hives in sheltered locations where they get the winter sun, then wrap each hive in insulation and then wrap them in black plastic and most seem to overwinter OK. I think they would have to go a long, long way south to have any benefit!
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WF owner
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One of the local beekeepers in our area takes his hives (or at least some of them) to North Carolina in the winter.
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Tracy Martin TN
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If your honey has crystalized it was extracted too early. The bees have it timed perfect. When moisture content is correct it will not harden. If you want to soften it up, put it inside your car on the dash. A good sunny day and it will be liquid again. It will still harden up again eventually, still has too much moisture in it. HTH Tracy
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Kansas99
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Honey moisture causes honey to ferment and sugar content and types of sugar cause honey to crystallize. If the honey is too wet that stinks if it's crystallized it's too sweet. Not trying to start a argument here but bee's will cap honey when it's 17-18% moisture or less depending on where the hive is at and the humidity, honey that is too wet will ferment. The types and amount of sugar in honey will make it crystalize, some faster then others but all raw honey will crystalize. The temperature it's stored at is the biggest factor. Uncapped honey may or may not need dried before it is bottled or extracted, if it is capped it will be dry or the bees wouldn't cap it. Honey must be over 20% moisture to ferment and if you have uncapped honey that your going to extract it's best to use a refracter to check the moisture content so you don't ruin all your honey when it ferments. |
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WF owner
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Does anyone do "comb honey" any more? My Dad loved comb honey and, for years, I had never heard of extracted honey.
I haven't had comb honey for years !
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nella(Pa)
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X 2, exactley correct
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Sugarmaker
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Warm it gently. I have a band heater on a small amount in a 5 gallon bucket right now. I need to get it into some jars. If you have ever had golderod honey then you know it can crystallize in just days after it is extracted. Just the nature of that fall honey. It might have some aster in there too. We get a lot of goldenrod here in north west Pennsylvania. Hope our 5 hives have done ok through the winter.
If you get a chance try honey made in Greece, from the plant thyme. Like no other honey I had ever tasted! Regards, Chris
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Bugsvert
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There's something about it that just tastes like sunshine and, you know, pure nature's nectar.
While I can see the appeal of filtered honey for some, for me, the bits of wax and pollen are part of the charm. It's like getting a taste of the whole bee experience! Plus, some say raw honey might even have more health benefits. Have any of you noticed a difference between raw and filtered honey? By the way, for those curious about the finer points of honey (like me!), there's this fantastic website called mklibrary.com that has tons of info on different honey varieties, production processes, the whole beekeeping world. Edited by Bugsvert - 05 Apr 2024 at 10:34am |
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DiyDave
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Bugsquirt reported...
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JC-WI
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Despite bugsquirt bringing up an old thread, it was fun to read since I musta missed it or forgot that I read it. Brother-in-law had close to 800 hives and we had 60. We had pails of honey after the market went to heck because of all the imports that gov. opened up... which killed those that were relying on the honey to pay their debts. and also when the unsavory were adulterating honey with corn syrup and selling their so called honey as honey. What people do to make a buck ... 20 years ago I planted a couple fields of buckwheat and flax, a bee keeper heard that and wanted to set out some hives. He brought in 16 hives and set them along the west side of a wood line and checked the a couple times and finally took the hives. Said it was a disappointment, thought he would have had more honey out of there than what he got. I was disappointed too, he brought a jar of honey when he came to pick up the bees, but it wasn't from the buckwheat and flax.
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He who says there is no evil has already deceived himself
The truth is the truth, sugar coated or not. Trawler II says, "Remember that." |
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Lars(wi)
Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Permian Basin Points: 6658 |
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Honey is great home remedy for sufferers of ‘acid reflux’(unless you are allergic to honey), three tablespoons of honey after meals, and with a few weeks the acid reflux will be gone. Works better than all those pharmaceutical concoctions.
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I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.
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Tracy Martin TN
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Sourwood is the best honey. JMHO, Tracy
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JC-WI
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Lars, I found when I had reflux going on that I took a couple Fennel seeds and chewed on them and couple times like that, it was gone. Niece was heart-burning one day when she showed up to pick up her grandma and I told here to take a couple of them and then sifted some more into a little sandwich bag just in case the first few didn't work. She made the comment that those few weren't going to work and I told her to just humor her dear old uncle and she did. Later when she came back and dropped off her grandma, I asked her how her indigestion was now and she said that it was gone before she got to the end of the driveway. She just couldn't believe how fast those few little fennel seeds worked. LOL
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He who says there is no evil has already deceived himself
The truth is the truth, sugar coated or not. Trawler II says, "Remember that." |
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Ted J
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OK all you gurus on honey.......... I had a "UGH" plastic container of honey that had never been in a fridge and it had turned a darker brown and got hard. It was golden colored when I purchased it. I didn't know if I should eat it or toss it. What do ya think? It was labeled raw. I had forgot it in the back of the cupboard.....
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jaybmiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 21487 |
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Please don't eat it ! Send it up to me !! jes kiddin... it's safe to eat. sigh, I remember scraping honey with a knife to get it onto my toast when I was,well, ok, 60 years younger......
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Ray54
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They claim honey out of those Egyptian tomes they find is still good. Just heat it until it gets to the normal almost runny consistency you want it at.
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Lars(wi)
Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Permian Basin Points: 6658 |
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Ted, put in a pan/bucket of warm water
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I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.
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