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Sugarmaker 
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Posted: 05 Oct 2020 at 8:22pm |
Folks, I saw a nice looking 170 tonight on my way home. Its at a local auction house. I did not stop and look at it. Any ideas what they are going for? My guess would be $2500 to $3500? Maybe more? I will try to stop and take some pictures. Regards, Chris
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Lonn
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Posted: 05 Oct 2020 at 8:47pm |
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In nice shape $5000 to $7500 maybe more but that depends on your definition of nice.
Edited by Lonn - 05 Oct 2020 at 8:53pm
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Sugarmaker
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Posted: 05 Oct 2020 at 8:52pm |
Loon, Ok higher than I expected! Thanks! Regards, Chris
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Lonn
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Posted: 05 Oct 2020 at 8:54pm |
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The right auction can surprise you with a good deal though.
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Sugarmaker
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Posted: 06 Oct 2020 at 5:51am |
Folks, Well Cheryl says we dont need one for sure! I may go look at it.  Just dont see a lot of them around. It may have come from another auction and someone is trying to flip it? Regards, Chris
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Posted: 06 Oct 2020 at 5:55am |
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Its an auction could sell for $1500 or $8500. I sold my 175 diesel with loader for $5500 it had a few drips but above average.
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DrAllis
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Posted: 06 Oct 2020 at 7:15am |
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I saw an estate auction 1969 One-Seventy gas bring $6500 in the last 30 days. Above average condition, clean, waxed and sharp. When new it would have sold for $5500.
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Lonn
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Posted: 06 Oct 2020 at 7:21am |
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$5,500 in 1969 is about the same value as $35,000 today!
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PaulB
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Posted: 06 Oct 2020 at 10:55am |
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Whatever they can sucker you for plus the buyers surcharge. That's what crooks, I mean auctioneers do.
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If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere.
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Posted: 06 Oct 2020 at 11:14am |
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One at the consignment auction where I sold my stuff last spring brought $4500.00 it was rough. But owner was there, was not a gear jumper, Gas unit.
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allisbred
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Posted: 06 Oct 2020 at 6:26pm |
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Worth more to me than a series 4 17 with 3pt, you will have better PS and that’s what makes a tractor in this hp size handy if you have a need for it. Just my opinion—
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Posted: 06 Oct 2020 at 6:31pm |
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Did/does the 170 have the same PD clutch(dry) as a D series ?
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Posted: 06 Oct 2020 at 6:45pm |
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I think we've been thru this before: An early One-Seventy is EXACTLY the same driveline as a series 4 D-17 with a 3-point hitch, except for the hydrostatic power steering.
Power Director clutch is bathed in oil.
Edited by DrAllis - 06 Oct 2020 at 6:47pm
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Steve A
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Posted: 06 Oct 2020 at 7:09pm |
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Paid $3500 for a 1967 170 with 417 loader, good tires, 6000 hrs on it last Feb. Paid $4800 for a 1974 175, far nicer shape with 1000 hrs, no loader, last week.
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Posted: 06 Oct 2020 at 7:22pm |
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And yeah, my wife has used those exact words to me ...
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Red Bank
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Posted: 07 Oct 2020 at 10:05pm |
 For what it is worth I bought this 170 Diesel a couple of years ago for $2200. The fenders have rust behind the supports but it runs, works great and the lights work. I replaced the front tires and had the wheels powder coated I plan to paint them when I paint the tractor.
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Sugarmaker
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Posted: 19 Oct 2020 at 12:58pm |
Folks, I drove by this 170 again today and thought I better stop and take some pictures for you. Looks like it may be all there but could use some tlc!
Regards, Chris
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Posted: 19 Oct 2020 at 1:19pm |
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It has the front grill, if runs out good, I see 4500 plus. Don’t tell me much more about it— lol. I don’t have room for another tractor.
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Posted: 19 Oct 2020 at 5:43pm |
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Looks like the same shape as the $4800 175. However mine came with a grill that was hit by a bush hog. So you might be a bit ahead, or I paid too much for mine!
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Posted: 19 Oct 2020 at 6:44pm |
 Chris, I have about 8500 or so in this one 2200 hrs. By the time I went over the tractor, bought a loader, had cylinders rebuilt, it adds up. I am very happy with it, maybe more than some think it’s worth. Just look over it really well. They’re not making new ones.
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Sugarmaker
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Posted: 19 Oct 2020 at 9:16pm |
Thanks guys! This 170 is not on my list just happens to be fairly close and orange. Regards, Chris
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Posted: 19 Oct 2020 at 10:32pm |
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Chris it’s destiny you buy it.You are building a new shop, you find this tractor, coincidence? I think not lol
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Sugarmaker
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Posted: 20 Oct 2020 at 5:35am |
 Red Bank wrote:
Chris it’s destiny you buy it.You are building a new shop, you find this tractor, coincidence? I think not lol |
RB, Humm? Destiny? Hummmmm? Well I didnt look that tractor over real close but have been around enough of these to see a paint job covering a lot of sins. I dont think it is worth $3500?? Needs new front tires, Rears are up but have a lot of wear. I will have to mull that over. One thing that I was doing prior to this Covid stuff was some antique tractor pulling. This tractor doesnt fall into this category so it would have to have another duty. Also the 170 is a newer version of the D17 that I have around here somewhere too. That one I can still pull in the old man classes, plus do a little brush hogging too. Where is that tractor?? Hummm? Hate that when you lose a tractor! Regards, Chris
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Posted: 20 Oct 2020 at 8:18am |
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So its a PIG in a DRESS W /Lipstick
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He who dies with the most toys is,
nonetheless ,still dead.
If all else fails ,Read all that is PRINTED.
Just because you do not have the tools for job , it dose not make it a bad design.
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Sugarmaker
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Posted: 20 Oct 2020 at 2:10pm |
Fred, It may be a very good tractor but the paint and details are not as good as they could be. Regards, Chris
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