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8070nc
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Topic: 670T engine questionPosted: 22 hours 22 minutes ago at 6:22pm |
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Did all 670Ts with bosch injectors have the large wrist pins
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Posted: 21 hours 59 minutes ago at 6:45pm |
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1982 was M-100 and Bosch nozzles and big pins in the 8000 series and N-series combines for sure. I think the big pin/3-ring piston thing was the fall of 1980 production?? Still a Roosa pump but Bosch injectors. It would have been at a certain eng s/n break. That's kind of how I remember it.
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Posted: 20 hours 38 minutes ago at 8:06pm |
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Thanks Doc. The reason i ask is I have a 8070 that has the most blowby ive ever seen. Ive found a 670t thats affordable. I know it doesnt have the counterbalanced crank but no harder than ill use the tractor i think itll be fine. Just have to keep the rpm down to 670t level. It has bosch injectors but no injectoin pump is gone and they cut the injection lines. The stubs appear to have been to a m100 pump
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Posted: 8 hours 59 minutes ago at 7:45am |
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Are the pump drive gear and the idler gear still in it? They are different from the M100 to the Rossa. As for blowby, I should have mentioned in the 7010 post, when these engines get coolant in the oil, they will develop what appears to be an extreme amount of blowby. The coolant will pool a little bit on the top of the head,under the rockers arms. As the temperature rises in the engine, this coolant tends to evaporate and causes a steam. When the steam comes out of the breather tube, you would swear that the rings are totally shot on the pistons. The engine may run just fine, but it sure doesn't look like it should.
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Posted: 8 hours 10 minutes ago at 8:34am |
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I appreciate your insight Lynn. Its blowby on the 8070. Wierd thing is its the best sounding 426 iv got out of 5. I could build it but ive got too many projects and theres only me now. Things are not like they used to. I cant find anybody to even pick up tools and them do it with any organization
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Posted: 6 hours 42 minutes ago at 10:02am |
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I would somewhat expect excessive blowby to include harder starting and increased oil consumption to be included. In the end, it doesn't really matter if the engine needs overhauled because of poor ring seal or water in the oil. It will still have to be torn all apart.
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Posted: 2 hours 42 minutes ago at 2:02pm |
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For a collector tractor, I would not worry about blowby if it's not drinking oil, and starts good. Those 2 things tell me more about an engine's condition than the smoke out the lower pipe lol! Sometimes when you open pandora's box, you can't close it lmao!
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Posted: 1 hour 57 minutes ago at 2:47pm |
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Ed its not a collector tractor. I use all my equipment. You more than likely you have never seen this kind of blowby. Ive got a 60 by150 shop. If i start it inside in 5 minutes you cant see from one end to the other. Compression is down as it has to spin to start. The main reason i want to change the motor is i want to save that counter balanced crank. Ill put a temporary motir in it so i can build the original back like it should be
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Posted: 1 hour 16 minutes ago at 3:28pm |
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Then it'd be a good idea. Save it before it lets go lol!
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