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jaybmiller 
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Posted: 18 Mar 2019 at 6:18am |
here's a link to an interesting read on BIG solar installations Worldwide...
... well worth looking at.
I'd like to know who has to dustoff the 3200 ACRES of panels at the USA one ! Seems to me a thin layer of desert dust would cut down the power output significantly. Also glad to see China has a sense of humour, design wise !!
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Posted: 18 Mar 2019 at 10:14pm |
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There is a 1 mg solar farm on the north side of my place, covers several acres. It powers part of the city sewer plant on the same property. I put up the hay on that land a few times but didn't miss it much as in wasn't level and had rocks and prairie dogs on it. A 20 acre farm is being built on part of the IBM plant north of me a few miles. I support solar but I can't for the life of me understand why they would put the panels on good quality irrigated farmland on the east side of the plant instead of on the south side, which is gently sloping to the south and isn't good for anything, plus it's closer to the plant's substation.
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Posted: 18 Mar 2019 at 11:54pm |
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I too see what John is talking about...but with everything else they build...homes, stores, wind gennys, solar farms, parking lots. pretty soon all the good farm land will be covered and them they will wonder why we can't raise anything like they used to in the sand and salt basins!
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Posted: 18 Mar 2019 at 11:57pm |
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I saw one solar farm...I think it was in IA, they had water sprinklers set to spray on them to wash them off. had to laugh at their irrigated solar farm!
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Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 12:11am |
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when they say solar has 300 times more toxic waste than nuke, what is the toxic waste?
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Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 7:21am |
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Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 1:13pm |
First I don't like the term Solar Farm. A farm produces food, solar panels do not produce food. Michigan ranks 47th out of the 48 continental states in available sun shine, yet some are pushing to cover up good farm land with solar panels.
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Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 3:39pm |
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They are starting to figure out that using solar farms to raise sheep,
means they don't have to mow.
That way the land still produces food.
As far as toxic waste goes,.. I'd let someone bury a solar panel on my property before I'd let them bury nuclear waste.
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Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 3:54pm |
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This is a big thing with chicken houses now. If it wasn't such a big expense it would really be worth it but I've heard you have to have the panels up and going something like 8 or 10 years before they start to pay for themselves. People put them on the roofs of the houses. Plenty of sunshine there.
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Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 4:35pm |
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Wide if they buried nuclear waste on your property, you could retire in the Bahamas like a king and still have left overs for your heirs. They would probably die of old age before the containment even thought of leaking. By then they would probably have a better way to recycle it. Yes they can bury it on my property, I have no problem with it, but the neighbors land value would probably plummet. They have to put it somewhere.
Solar panels wouldn't get quite as strong of a containment system. Most of the pollution is in the mfg. of the panels in third world countries with improper disposal of waste from what I understand.
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Posted: 20 Mar 2019 at 4:09am |
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thanks Chaz!
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Posted: 20 Mar 2019 at 6:21am |
funny ( well, not so funny) thing about 'over there ' pollution, is that everything airborne eventually comes our way.. so... if WE made the stuff, the toxic air would be their problem.....
if you had nuke waste under your property ,you'ld aso have 24/7 security ! hmm, maybe that's an idea... dig a trench ,say where a 'wall' should be, then have the guys with guns keep EVERYONE away from the hazmat hot zone !
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Posted: 20 Mar 2019 at 6:36am |
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Read that CA Solar Farm article a while back, they note MW over a YEAR not per hour or by day to make them appear bigger than actually are. The Rosamond Plant is a 1.75mw/Day supplier, that is ALMOST enough to power a small subdivision for a few hours a day. What a Royal Waste of MONEY!!! Some of the old nastiest tiniest coal fired plants were 50mw/hour or 500 mw in 10 hours not over a Year. used about ten rail cars of coal a day to generate that power.
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Posted: 20 Mar 2019 at 7:50am |
jay.....so if we made dirty air, it would go over there and stay? 
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Posted: 20 Mar 2019 at 8:03am |
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yeah , they'd somehow turn it into more cheap junk that we'd buy from them....
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Posted: 20 Mar 2019 at 8:18am |
That's funny.
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Posted: 20 Mar 2019 at 8:20am |
The BIG solar farms are in CAlifornia.. and they talk about how cheap and competitive they are.......... The 18.3 cents per kWh Los Angeles households paid for electricity in February 2019 was 34.6 percent more than the nationwide average of 13.6 cents per kWh. Last February, electricity costs were 34.1 percent higher in Los Angeles compared to the nation. In the past five years, prices paid by Los Angeles area consumers for electricity exceeded the U.S. average by 34.1 percent or more in the month of February. (See chart 2.)
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Posted: 20 Mar 2019 at 8:32am |
 jaybmiller wrote:
yeah , they'd somehow turn it into more cheap junk that we'd buy from them....
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So then it wouldn't stay there....
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Posted: 20 Mar 2019 at 9:01am |
jaybmiller wrote:
funny ( well, not so funny) thing about 'over there ' pollution, is that everything airborne eventually comes our way.. |
Well we will just have to get Cow Farts Cortez on it. 
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