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    Posted: 26 Mar 2019 at 12:11pm
Need the crankshaft front and rear seal numbers or ID and OD for Allis Chalmers B with CE engine.  Many thanks,  Tim
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In regards to the front: The early CE engines used a smaller OD seal than the later ones. I couldn’t find the smaller diameter seal for my engine, so I just used a Dremel and enlarged the hole in the timing cover, then used the larger seal that I got from DJ’s tractor parts.

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I took the timing cover to napa and they ordered one to fit. Make sure you line up the cover and tighten it down before you put the seal in. I will be redoing mine!
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Thanks Creston, I haven't torn the engine down yet was going to gather some parts 1st.
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I did it a little different than what mdm1 said. I put the seal in the timing cover, then installed it, centered it, and tightened it down. I tried to eyeball it as best I could, and 4 years later, it's not leaking yet. 
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Are speedy sleeves required these seals?
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Something is required, yes. Otherwise the spiral groove cut into the crankshaft will cause a leak. 
I'm sure some folks will say what I did is "wrong", but instead of bothering with a Speedi Sleeve, I used some JB Weld to fill in the spiral, let it cure, then sanded/filed it down to be flush with the crankshaft snout. This method works, because the seal isn't riding on the JB Weld, but rather the crankshaft snout, which keeps the seal from wearing away at the JB Weld. 4 years have passed, no leaks yet. 
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