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CTuckerNWIL 
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Location: NW Illinois
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 Posted: 05 Jun 2015 at 8:15am |
The sky isn't falling here in Illinois yet.  I bought my WD45 32 years ago. I didn't ask what oil had been used in it, I got it home and changed the oil and filter using 10W30. Watched to see if the oil got dirty by looking at the dipstick. If it started to look dirty, change it. Been doing the same thing for 32 years and never had a problem yet. The biggest problem with engine oil around here is most likely condensation from not working her long enough and using it in winter for pushing snow.
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ac45dave
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Joined: 23 May 2015
Location: SE(IN)
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Posted: 25 Aug 2015 at 4:14pm |
i ran across this thread today.been searching for a good non-detergent oil to use in my" m "that hasn't been overhauled.probably has had non detergent oil ran it most of it's life.found that, classic car motor oil is NOT a non-detergent oil.would be great if they had a non detergent grade.this oil does have much higher phosphorus and zinc(zddp) levels which is great for these flat tappet engines.most name brands today have half the zinc of the classic car brand which has 1600 ppm.gets to be kind of a trade off,non-detergent vs higher phos and zinc to protect cam and tappets.
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54 wd-45gas ; 56 wd-45d N/F w/fact p/s ; 63 d-17 sIII N/F gas ; 60 D14 N/F ; 67 d-17 sIV N/F gas ; 63D15 sII W/F; 39rc#667 ; 2021 massey 4710 fwa ; gravely 2 wheel tractors
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CTuckerNWIL
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Posted: 25 Aug 2015 at 9:55pm |
 what a mess wrote:
well they both start up good i jstu got both tractors so im not really sure my d 17 has original oil pressure gauge and it drops to 0 when im run it for about 5 mins so its got me nervous |
If the 17 is an early model with the bypass system, does it have a stem in the filter base? Does it have the right filter? Is the gauge good? What is the pressure cold on start up?
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GM Guy
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Location: NW KS / S.C. ID
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Posted: 25 Aug 2015 at 10:26pm |
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I use Mobil Delvac 1300 Super 15w40 conventional in most every diesel I own. From a fleet of 6.5Ls to my L3 and 7580.
I dont have any gas tractors, but I know we run 15w40 diesel oil in dad's Super 55 and 550 Olivers (S55 and one 550 are gas, other 550 is diesel)
I refuse to run a junk Fram filter. We run Wix or Baldwin or whoever Agco uses as a supplier, those are the only 3 we use.
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Gleaner: the properly engineered and built combine.
If you need parts for your Gleaner, we are parting out A's through L2's, so we may be able to help.
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HD6GTOM
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Posted: 26 Aug 2015 at 8:53am |
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I spent many years selling oil, many years helping test it in the labs along with millions of road miles in heavy trucks, cars, light truck, and thousands of hours in farm tractors. Any 10wX30 or 15Wx40 motor oil is going to work for you. We took old tractors that had been run on non detergent oil since they were new-some were 30+ years old at the time of testing and switched them to the, new to them, detergent oils. At 20 and then 50 hours of running we changed the filters, tore the filters apart. The 20hour filters were very dirty, the 50 hour filters were not so dirty. We lost 1 tractor engine after switching to detergent oil, That was due to a worn out set of rod bearings not related to switching to detergent oil. We did oil tests before, and did many after the switch, and we were sure the tractor was going to need rod bearings before we put the new oil in it. As far as low oil pressure, if my memory serves me right the early D17 needs a certain oil filter to maintain oil pressure. If you have an AGCO dealer stop in there and pick up the correct filter. If you have an older NAPA store in your area they may be able to help too. I think you need the pipe that goes up into the center of the filter, that should be still screwed into your filter base.
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