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larslog 
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Posted: 20 Mar 2014 at 11:25pm |
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I looked at a small a-c crawler today that I thought was a model M that was in the process of have'ing a small detroit mounted in it. How ever after looking at it I saw that it was marked HD-3 serial no.15 on the steering clutch housing.The current owner had bought it at an estate auction.Previous owner had started restorihg it,rebuilt the 2cyl.detroit and drive train.Was told this is a rare crawler.What I,m wondering is how many were built and are they worth much?-Thanks
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ac_sd
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Posted: 21 Mar 2014 at 2:12am |
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AC built an HD-3 in the 1940's which had a 2-71 Detroit Diesel in stalled. It was based on the Model M Tractor, but had a fuel tank seat instead of the older style metal type. I'll bet that's what you are looking at and it is rare. I'd buy it!
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Posted: 21 Mar 2014 at 2:24am |
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They are rarer than hens teeth as i think Allis Chalmers only made between 20-25
with 2-71 motor in it.
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Gary(OR)
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Posted: 21 Mar 2014 at 2:58am |
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Wow,get the feeling Idaho got more than its fare share of those rare, little crawlers. A year or 2 ago, another fella from ID had one, #8 IIRC,for sale. It had an aftermarket or home made blade and was still a working crawler, earning it's keep ! lol
I'm sure it sold. My bid wasn't even close. Think it may've went overseas....?
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Gary(OR)
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Posted: 21 Mar 2014 at 3:02am |
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larslog
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Posted: 21 Mar 2014 at 11:35pm |
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Well,I went ahead and bought it.There was another guy wanting it for the engine only and planned on scrapping the rest.I could,nt see something as nice and as rare as that is just scrapped. GARY(OR) -Thanks for the picture and it is that first series of HD-3.Not sure what my plans for it are,would love to keep it and finish the restoration but I have about 20 more crawlers that I collected over the years with the idea that I would restore them after I retire.But the way the economy is I,m not so sure that I can retire,so am open to offers or suggestions. Thanks for the responses.
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Posted: 21 Mar 2014 at 11:39pm |
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Gary, I think you need to talk to Lars!
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"If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer"
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Gary(OR)
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Posted: 22 Mar 2014 at 3:50pm |
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Yeah John, I think lotsa folks are buggin' Lars right about now.
Best offer is gonna get the prize I guess. We need some pictures. Might as well post them here for all to see or put it up on ebay....
Edited by Gary(OR) - 22 Mar 2014 at 3:51pm
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OrangeKiwi(NZ)
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Posted: 22 Mar 2014 at 5:36pm |
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There were 28 of the 1942 HD3's made. The Idaho HD3 #8 is now in NSW, Australia.
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Posted: 22 Mar 2014 at 5:51pm |
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Seems them outsiders snatch up all the good collectables from here... smart fellers... saving them from going to scrap. LOL
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Terry G
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Posted: 24 Mar 2014 at 11:56am |
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#8 is in northern Calf. beggining a full restoration. Sent the parts manual to the guy who bought it from me about a month ago. Has my initials stamped on it and I showed my 13 year old son where they are so he can identify it in years to come.
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larslog
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Posted: 08 Apr 2014 at 12:20am |
Photo of 1942 HD3 #8 in its NSW, Australia workshop 
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Posted: 08 Apr 2014 at 11:49am |
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I was told by someone that all hd3's had been recalled by the AC factory due to the fact they were produced early in WWII after manufacturing restrictions were imposed. Either all of the tractors were not returned or the story was bogus. If so, there are potentially 20+ tractors out there somewhere. I pursued an HD-3 about 5 years ago, but the trail went cold. Eastern Washington state.
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Posted: 08 Apr 2014 at 6:36pm |
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Where exactly is serial # stamped. I know of supposed HD-3 in pieces , owner can`t find any numbers could be going to scrap if he can`t find numbers.
He knows AC crawlers inside and out so numbers must be in a strange place.
Thanks Tony
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Posted: 08 Apr 2014 at 6:53pm |
Would the REAL #8, please stand up? 
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Posted: 08 Apr 2014 at 7:34pm |
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Posted: 08 Apr 2014 at 9:22pm |
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Was contacted by the buyer of #8 that I had. It did go to Calf. and now is in Australia. We were both correct I was just a little behind time. Terry G in SW Idaho
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Posted: 08 Apr 2014 at 10:30pm |
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Hi Guy's, my name is Rob Grace from Australia. Number 8 HD3 is in my workshop. We are going to totally restore it. I am in the process of collecting parts. Not a lot known about these machines. Definitely not a model M final drive nor gearbox, but not HD5. I have found that the track chains are HD4. I believe that the idlers M, smaller diameter than the HD4. I have managed to find new HD4 sprocket rims but I really need to find some HD4 chains and plates. Any help or information with this restoration would be very much appreciated.
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larslog
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Posted: 10 Aug 2014 at 11:05pm |
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looking for any information,books,manuals almost anything to do with my HD3.Also was the HD5 built after the HD3?As they used the same engine was the HD5 an updated version of the HD3? Thanks-lars
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Posted: 06 Oct 2021 at 10:30pm |
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I got one in Idaho as well
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Birhta2
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Posted: 06 Oct 2021 at 10:32pm |
How did you designate the production number? Off the serial number?  
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CTuckerNWIL wrote: