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NFMS tractor pull in the fun days of pulling?
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    Posted: 29 Jan 2020 at 2:53pm
Dr Allis or anyone on here ever have a pulling tractor in Kentucky for this event years ago when pulling was fun?
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Yup seen that when it came out, but is anyone one here pulling there in the video ?
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Al Arnold with the 220 was a dealer in Martinsville Ind and is deceased. A good video from the past.
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I drove the Loretta Lynn Farm 8550 in the short lived articulated 4 wheel drive class in 1979. Fifth place... out of 9 tractors.  Swapped tires, weights, added exhaust tubes, hauling, turned the fuel to max - cost us about 3 grand total = got a $900 check... best I can remember.  3  903 Cummins Versatiles  with cut tires and red hot exhausts smoked us bad as well as another 8550 from somewhere that had a non stock pump.. They all pulled 20 ' better.  We were pleased as we beat a few deeres and another 8550... The Memphis region of AC asked us to do this with AC's blessing but were ask not to say anything- Dave Arps made the phone call to me - talked to Terry Wood at the Harvey plant and he walked us through getting the most stock out of our unit w/o swapping parts.  I also know what the engine w/ P Pump sounds like on the dyno when it goes into retard at the end of the rack travel...  and we never got any $ from AC - well they did give us an extra discount on the tractor when it sold... It was returned to stock setting , well sort of...
 

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Do you know or have a good idea of the horsepower the 8550 was putting out ??
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Thanks for that info Tbran ! That was quite a class I bet! Always like to hear your stories as you were in the know of background things and happings at AC not known to the public, Thanks!
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Originally posted by tbran tbran wrote:

I drove the Loretta Lynn Farm 8550 in the short lived articulated 4 wheel drive class in 1979. Fifth place... out of 9 tractors.  Swapped tires, weights, added exhaust tubes, hauling, turned the fuel to max - cost us about 3 grand total = got a $900 check... best I can remember.  3  903 Cummins Versatiles  with cut tires and red hot exhausts smoked us bad as well as another 8550 from somewhere that had a non stock pump.. They all pulled 20 ' better.  We were pleased as we beat a few deeres and another 8550... The Memphis region of AC asked us to do this with AC's blessing but were ask not to say anything- Dave Arps made the phone call to me - talked to Terry Wood at the Harvey plant and he walked us through getting the most stock out of our unit w/o swapping parts.  I also know what the engine w/ P Pump sounds like on the dyno when it goes into retard at the end of the rack travel...  and we never got any $ from AC - well they did give us an extra discount on the tractor when it sold... It was returned to stock setting , well sort of...
 
 
Was there more than 1 8550 at Lorettas? If not, we now own that tractor.
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This the one?  There are several, on youtube...Wink

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To answer, don't know - we had the large M&W dyno - it would not hold it - as to the 8550, I think there was a hole drilled in the plate next to the air filter to hold a pump for the water/alcohol we sprayed into the intake as the air filter was removed to pull. One of the 8550's had a short block as it missed the river crossing point and went under water pulling it into the engine and blowing the head gasket and lifting the head - broke a few head bolts - bent rods etc.  I received a phone call from Mooney Lynn at about 5 AM one Sunday morning - "Hey Tim, my 8550 took a drink of water"   "Who is this"   "Doo" "who"  "Mooney, Mooney damn Lynn"  "Oh , sorry Mr Lynn, its just I am not hearing well before the Sun comes up on Sunday"  - so the phone calls to Allis began...    
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Its interesting that you pulled the 4x4 class. I knew Darius Harms pretty well. He won that class I think every year they had them at Louisville.
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did he run the versatile ?
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Yes. That was way before my time though. I'm not sure what model it was though
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it had a huge rack of weights on the front best I can remember.
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That sounds right. I have seen a couple of pictures of it but can't remember. I know he used to borrow the tires off a neighbor's tractor to pull down there so they had to swap tires every year to pull
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Smokey,ear pearcin, headaches,burning eyes, could not see the starting end, boy that was fun!!
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I  did a video of those pulls. I remember those 8550 tractors. As a dealer we were really excited to see them there. We usually took some customers with us to the pulls to watch the AC tractors win.  AC always made sure we had plenty of tickets.  Those were the days for AC in pulling. 
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Please tell us more ! Always luv to hear the glory days of Allis ,, 
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Local county fair back in the 70's had tractor pulls here.  The farmers would just take in tractors stock and pull them.  My dad had a maroon belly 7080 that would block out the sun with a full rack a weights out front and inside and outside rears. I believe he pulled it 3-4 years and never was beat other than by coin toss one night at about 2 in the morning.  Neighbor had a fully weighted 1570 case and they couldn't stop either with the little sled.  Before they flipped the coin they had a bunch of drunks come down from the stands and as many people as could stand on the sled climbed on(it was OSHA approved I'm sure Wink) and still couldn't stop either so they flipped coins.

Dad later bought a 4840 Deere and the 7080 would pull circles around it. Although the 4840 did have 18.4s instead of 20.8s in it's defense.  Dad still has that 7080 with it's original 4x6 undercutter behind it.  He loaned it to his brother in law about 25 years ago.  It has the original paint and maybe 4500 hrs.  Guessing it hasn't sat outside other while farming 15 times since 1976.  I need to post some picks of it sometime it is cherry as you will see.  The dealer sticker was a old paper sticker and is as readable as the day he bought the tractor.
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Thats how it was around here too,, Allis had the John Deeres with the Powerdirector shift, but JD had the 38 inch rear tires and that was an advantage for them,  
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Somewhat off the pulling topic but if we are telling AC/Deere stories, here is one.  WE had a customer that used Deere and IH.  Came in one day and traded a Deere 4630 on a new 7060 . Only AC he had ever owned I think.  AS much as I hate to say, not  every tractor that came out of the factory was trouble free and as fate would have it this was one of them. Bad enough an AC guy got one but really bad when  competitive brand guy got one. So the tractor was delivered and in use about a day when engine oil started running out of the hole in the bell housing. Needless to say the 7060 came back to the shop and the Deere trade in went back to the customer.  Tore tractor down same day and found the rear engine plate was machined incorrectly and the rear main seal had popped out of the plate. Easy fix. Put a new plate and seal in and  had the 7060 ready to go back to customer the next day. However when ready to deliver back the  customer says I think my 4630 has a lot more power after he had run both tractors and he wasn't sure he wanted the AC back. WE put the 7060 on the dyno and it was fine. Talked him into letting me bring the 7060 back and putting them side by side in the field pulling the same tool. He was placing his decision on the fact that the Deere engine  rpm would not pull down and the AC engine was always pulling down. I explained to him how the engine worked to meet max hp at rated rpm. Then I  pulled out the stop watch and timed both tractors several times  from one end of field to the other using the same tool. We beat the Deere every time.  The difference was that his Deere had 18.4 tires and duals and the AC had 20.8 tires and duals with weights. So yes his Deere was not pulling down but just spinning his wheels.   The 7060 was giving max performance.  And yes the AC stayed on the farm and I drove the Deere back to the shop.  End of story. Sorry it was so long. 
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Thanks ! Always like to hear these stories of real life AC experience, I was a kid in the hey day , but ran enough of them to be hooked on Orange and the 301 diesel  
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My dad pulled there with the tractor I still pull today , I’ll see if I can find the old pics . The tractor is still called “Fathers Pride “ today
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My One Eighty puller was there in Kentucky in the late 70,s ive heard
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Fun video & great AC stories. Thanks for sharing. Yes, please keep them coming.
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