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   Old reliable is giving me fits, when I mow with it dies after 45 minutes of use. Yesterday I cleaned the carb out and found small amounts of dirt. I am not a small engine guru, but after the carb cleaning it still dies! Would the coil on the small engine be the next step?
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MRGREENTHUMB Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Jasper IN Points: 32	Post Options Post Reply Quote MRGREENTHUMB Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Old 310 AC mower Posted: 13 Sep 2009 at 7:15pm
	Old reliable is giving me fits, when I mow with it dies after 45 minutes of use. Yesterday I cleaned the carb out and found small amounts of dirt. I am not a small engine guru, but after the carb cleaning it still dies! Would the coil on the small engine be the next step?

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Jamie NC Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Conover NC Points: 319	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jamie NC Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Sep 2009 at 7:39pm
	Try some 50/50 in her. lol

CDR,Ky. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: N. Kentucky Points: 55	Post Options Post Reply Quote CDR,Ky. Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Sep 2009 at 7:51pm
	Check the fuel filter,I have a 416 with a Kohler and when my Dad still owned it he had to have a fuel pump put on it.Maybe its the same kind of problem?

MRGREENTHUMB Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Jasper IN Points: 32	Post Options Post Reply Quote MRGREENTHUMB Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Sep 2009 at 7:51pm
	I tried that and had allot of smoke!LOL

MRGREENTHUMB Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Jasper IN Points: 32	Post Options Post Reply Quote MRGREENTHUMB Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Sep 2009 at 7:57pm
	Changed the filter 2 months ago, so the little mechanical pump just stops working when it gets hot?

ACJohn Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Horseheads, NY Points: 147	Post Options Post Reply Quote ACJohn Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Sep 2009 at 7:58pm
	If the coil is breaking down, it should happen quicker than that. Try the simple things first, like the fuel filter. Good luck.

CTuckerNWIL Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22823	Post Options Post Reply Quote CTuckerNWIL Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Sep 2009 at 8:01pm
	Will it start back up right after dying? If it's the coil it might take some time to cool off.
	http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF

MRGREENTHUMB Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Jasper IN Points: 32	Post Options Post Reply Quote MRGREENTHUMB Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Sep 2009 at 8:07pm
	It will start up, but you need the choke all the way out! That is why I started at the carb first, she will burn a flame like this. It seems electrical to me because it takes about 45 minutes and there it goes!~

Gary Burnett Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Virginia Points: 2940	Post Options Post Reply Quote Gary Burnett Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Sep 2009 at 8:11pm
	Did you clean out the needle valve?

MRGREENTHUMB Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Jasper IN Points: 32	Post Options Post Reply Quote MRGREENTHUMB Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Sep 2009 at 8:17pm
	Yes I did that, but I did not rebuild the carb just cleaned it. You can set your watch and it will die between 40 - 50 Min.

Gary Burnett Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Virginia Points: 2940	Post Options Post Reply Quote Gary Burnett Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Sep 2009 at 8:38pm
	Condenser going bad will make the engine act like its running out of gas sometimes.

Steve in NJ Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Andover, NJ Points: 11823	Post Options Post Reply Quote Steve in NJ Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Sep 2009 at 8:59pm
	My Father had that same similar problem. I renewed the condenser as Gary mentioned and problem solved. My Father then confessed he's been messin' with this thing for a few weeks. Didn't want to say anything to me cause' I guess he wanted to try to fix it himself. You know how them 92 year olds are. Well, now he's a happy camper again anyway.... lol! Steve@B&B

MRGREENTHUMB Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Jasper IN Points: 32	Post Options Post Reply Quote MRGREENTHUMB Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Sep 2009 at 9:09pm
	I will give it a try tomorrow! Thanks

terryinmo Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Warrenton Points: 57	Post Options Post Reply Quote terryinmo Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Sep 2009 at 5:37am
	Look at gas tank and check the vent in the cap I got a 416 this spring that was it's problem.

MRGREENTHUMB Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Jasper IN Points: 32	Post Options Post Reply Quote MRGREENTHUMB Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Sep 2009 at 8:23pm
	After changing the coil, and condenser it still did the same thing! Found the problem, it was the spark plug wire, when I pulled it off it was burned up pretty bad, do not know how it would run at all but it did! Something that simple had me going for a day! LOL Thanks for the help guy's!

CTuckerNWIL Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22823	Post Options Post Reply Quote CTuckerNWIL Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Sep 2009 at 8:58pm
	Glad you found it. With all the good help here it still pays to have a good eye.
	http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF

Cal Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: East Woodstock Points: 172	Post Options Post Reply Quote Cal Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Sep 2009 at 9:02pm
	Those old kohlers are prone to sticking valves, I would ttry adding a good dose of marvel mystery oil to each tank of fuel. if it won't restart until it kools and cranks like no compression until kool I'd say its valve trouble. Cal in Ct

MRGREENTHUMB Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Jasper IN Points: 32	Post Options Post Reply Quote MRGREENTHUMB Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Sep 2009 at 9:14pm
	I found the issue it was a bad plug wire! It got a good work out today mowing high grass.