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KRAKMT
Bronze Level Joined: 21 May 2010 Location: MT Points: 99 |
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Posted: 02 Jan 2024 at 10:00am |
Finally got my 715b operational again.
Now during the winter months I think I will rebuild the lower bucket pins. The side with the large bolt instead of pin egg shaped the bucket side quite a bit. Where are people getting pins and weld in bushings? |
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Coke-in-MN
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Afton MN Points: 41600 |
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I got stress relived shaft stock and made my own , bushings might try McMaster Car or even a bearing house - (look online) As far as work bucket you can try to add a shaft collar the size of pin and weld it onto bucket sides .
I made my own from stock and drilled to size on my backhoe buckets that were worn . |
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KRAKMT
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Do you know the dimensions of the lower pins? I will get those and then try to bushing out from there.
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orangeman
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 1764 |
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KRAKMT: The diameter of the lower bucket pin is 1.995" - 2.001" and the length is 5.780"- 5.810". These dimensions along with all of the pin and bushing dimensions for the Loader portion are found on page G-3 of the AC 715 Backhoe/Loader Manual dated 12/75.
The Part Number for the original AC Service Manual from which the above was excerpted is 9003463. Good Luck with this project. The AC 715 is a great machine! ~ Orangeman |
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KRAKMT
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Thanks for the help from you both.
This place looks to have stressproof stock. https://www.speedymetals.com/p-1597-2-rd-stressproof-or-equivalent-cold-finished.aspx I would like to do the pins on the dipper where the dog bone attaches to the loader arm. Can either of you give me that pin size? |
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orangeman
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KRAKT: Yes can supply those too, send me a PM with an email - will photo the Service Page with all the Pin and Bushing dimensions. ~ Orangeman
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KRAKMT
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Back working on pin rebuild.
Took me a couple months to get a windshield installed given the weather. Would welding a 5ft stick of 2” Dom into the loader bucket pins- ensuring straight and square as bushings and then using 1 1/2 pins. Would this work? It would avoid the cost of line boring. |
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orangeman
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I would get an estimate to have the egged out hole in the boom built up and line bored for a new bushing and be done with it.
Once done, and if maintained you would not likely be back into it in our lifetime. My .02C fwiw. ~ Orangeman
Edited by orangeman - 18 May 2024 at 2:41pm |
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KRAKMT
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When I stopped and talked to local shop on line boring the estimate I received was - “ that would be a lot”
Not many other options- I might have found one 3 hours a way. But using dom and going to 1 1/2 pins might also last me a lifetime. Internet says a stick is $95 plus shipping. |
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Coke-in-MN
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Cost on steel is almost beyond owning anything now . Son was buying pin material for his snow plows and has tripled for a length of full stick and a cutting charge added if he doesn't want a 20' length .
Other thing one could do is buy round stock already with hole , then welding that onto what you need after boring it to accept bushing in size you want . A idea of DOM tube - https://www.metalsdepot.com/steel-products/steel-round-tube-dom |
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orangeman
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There is a reason why when the original design was evaluated that a 2" pin was specified for the boom to loader bucket. The solutions to undertake an egged out hole are multiple. In the end - what needs to be decided is a repair solution relative to how the machine will be used and how it is to operate and importantly how much you want to sink into a machine that's approaching 50 years given current economics. It might also be worthwhile to consider serviceability of the bucket to the boom geometry when using a smaller 1.50" pin and whether that will withstand the dead load and stress moment on the PIN stock selected. A pin that is bent because it is undersized can be a pain in the _ss when there is a need to remove it - fwiw.
The article that follows is also worth a read relative to what you are considering - see link here:https://weldingweb.com/vbb/threads/707524-Backhoe-pinss HTH's ~ Orangeman Edited by orangeman - 19 May 2024 at 7:32am |
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