D17 stock pulling

Anybody on here I can chat with about setting up a D17 for stock farm class pulling ?

From what I see at pulls the term "stock" Is a joke. It's just another class the ones that can't compete in real pulling have come up with. like may years ago when a bunch couldn't compete in the SuperStock class they came up with the StockTurbo class. Some places have a "antique" class that means only factory issued components and weights along with a 3MPH limit for show tractors and this helps the guys that are amateur or part time pullers. These classes generally won't allow entries in classes below the tractor's factory shipping weight. This only really works with at least some minimal enforcement, like a compression check to see that engines area reasonably close to factory specifications. Where this has been done I've seen a few feathers ruffled where guys that had a cranking compression of over 200PSI not be allowed in the antique class. Anything else is a contest of what those that can't play with the big boys can get away with.

I could see just having 3 divisions: Antique. Non turbo & Single turbo. Many of the places I go have an "open class" which is basically what the SuperStock class was in the early 70s. Just my point of view.

Edited by PaulB - 08 Sep 2024 at 6:45pm

If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere.
Real pullers don't have speed limits.
If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY

You don't think stripping a D17 down below its shipping weight to pull in an "antique" class isn't cheating?

If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere.
Real pullers don't have speed limits.
If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY

DrAllis
Scott here got my new to me D17 today my 1st ever tractor
We have been chatting
Got some questions
Im in ontario canada
Can you send me your phone number so i can call you have done questions
Thanks

Where in Ontario are you ? I’m
At the Ontario /Quebec border

if farming was easy everybody would be doing it

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D17puller Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 05 Sep 2024 Location: Ontario canada Points: 8	Post Options Post Reply Quote D17puller Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: D17 stock pulling Posted: 07 Sep 2024 at 3:43pm
	Anybody on here I can chat with about setting up a D17 for stock farm class pulling ?

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DrAllis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 20521	Post Options Post Reply Quote DrAllis Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 Sep 2024 at 10:50pm
	Start by getting the engine in the best tune it can be. Run a cranking compression test to determine the healthiness of the engine. Compression should be 140-145 psi on a new engine. If 4500 lbs is your goal, you need a narrow front end and all fluid removed from all the tires. I'd probably remove the drawbars Traction Booster spring assembly from underneath and go with a lighter/easily adjusted drawbar. This will require some torch work to keep your brake pedal linkage. Fenders and brackets need to get removed. I have my D-17 antique puller down to 3900 lbs with 14.9 x 38 rear tires.

PaulB Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Rocky Ridge Md Points: 4740	Post Options Post Reply Quote PaulB Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Sep 2024 at 1:05pm
	From what I see at pulls the term "stock" Is a joke. It's just another class the ones that can't compete in real pulling have come up with. like may years ago when a bunch couldn't compete in the SuperStock class they came up with the StockTurbo class. Some places have a "antique" class that means only factory issued components and weights along with a 3MPH limit for show tractors and this helps the guys that are amateur or part time pullers. These classes generally won't allow entries in classes below the tractor's factory shipping weight. This only really works with at least some minimal enforcement, like a compression check to see that engines area reasonably close to factory specifications. Where this has been done I've seen a few feathers ruffled where guys that had a cranking compression of over 200PSI not be allowed in the antique class. Anything else is a contest of what those that can't play with the big boys can get away with. I could see just having 3 divisions: Antique. Non turbo & Single turbo. Many of the places I go have an "open class" which is basically what the SuperStock class was in the early 70s. Just my point of view. Edited by PaulB - 08 Sep 2024 at 6:45pm
	If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere. Real pullers don't have speed limits. If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY

D17puller Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 05 Sep 2024 Location: Ontario canada Points: 8	Post Options Post Reply Quote D17puller Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Sep 2024 at 1:11pm
	I just pulling in the antique class as is 1st time pulling for me ( new hobby for me ) & im not blind to the fact that guys cheat in all classes as have been around stock car racing most of my adult life just looking to have some fun but want to get the D17 down in weight to pull in the 4500 class against my son in law’s IIH model H

PaulB Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Rocky Ridge Md Points: 4740	Post Options Post Reply Quote PaulB Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Sep 2024 at 6:48pm
	You don't think stripping a D17 down below its shipping weight to pull in an "antique" class isn't cheating?
	If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere. Real pullers don't have speed limits. If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY

WF owner Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 May 2013 Location: Bombay NY Points: 4665	Post Options Post Reply Quote WF owner Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Sep 2024 at 6:54pm
	Probably no more cheating than some of the other makes that are swapping to high cube engines in the same classes.

D17puller Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 05 Sep 2024 Location: Ontario canada Points: 8	Post Options Post Reply Quote D17puller Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 Sep 2024 at 7:08pm
	DrAllis Scott here got my new to me D17 today my 1st ever tractor We have been chatting Got some questions Im in ontario canada Can you send me your phone number so i can call you have done questions Thanks

DrAllis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 20521	Post Options Post Reply Quote DrAllis Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 Sep 2024 at 8:49pm
	Done.

farmer_rob Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: N.Lancaster ont Points: 362	Post Options Post Reply Quote farmer_rob Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 Sep 2024 at 10:05pm
	Where in Ontario are you ? I’m At the Ontario /Quebec border
	if farming was easy everybody would be doing it