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captaindana
Orange Level Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Fort Plain, NY Points: 2376 |
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Posted: 15 Apr 2012 at 3:46pm |
Dr A was right; timing wasn't my problem. I tore the head off figuring to have valves all checked out by local guru, which is what I will still do. I found cyl#1 like pictured. Whatever that thing is it is embedded into the piston in 2 pieces at 5 to 5:30 position...driven strait in! What it looks like is a needle from a bearing. What is it and where did it come from?
Head Piston#1 with 2 embedded pieces Other cyls and pistons look good |
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captaindana
Orange Level Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Fort Plain, NY Points: 2376 |
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I am thinking this foreign object had to be dropped in through the injector hole 27 years ago???
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farmtoybuilder
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Dresden,Ohio Points: 1453 |
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Dang, thats one beat up piston! And i agree it had to been in there when assembled or through nozzle. Maybe a tip came off another nozzle at one time? Hard to tell but it sure did a number on it! Is the sleeve ok.
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captaindana
Orange Level Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Fort Plain, NY Points: 2376 |
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The sleeve has to be replaced.
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CTuckerNWIL
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22810 |
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Stan R
Orange Level Access Joined: 03 Dec 2009 Location: MA Points: 945 |
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Valve looks offset. Worn guides or bent?
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captaindana
Orange Level Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Fort Plain, NY Points: 2376 |
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Oh, so my mechanic heard her run today and went home, telling me to take the head off and have the valves looked at. So this mess in cyl#1 really didn't have anything to do with her running incorrectly issues!
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Jim Lindemood
Orange Level Joined: 22 Sep 2009 Location: Dry Ridge, KY Points: 2569 |
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Interesting looking piston -- the valves in first picture (right side) don't look to be seated properly. Whatever got into the piston may have also caused a valve issue. Nice to have a mechanic that makes "house calls" -- I'm looking for one of them fellers -LOL
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SteveM C/IL
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Shelbyville IL Points: 8036 |
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valves are fine.....pockets are made offset
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TREVMAN
Orange Level Joined: 04 Jan 2010 Location: Regina,Sask,Can Points: 1635 |
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Thats weird, stuff like that only happens to me I thought...New sleeve and piston and I think itll be alright. Id replace the valves on # 1, keep us posted, good luck, Trev.
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Gerald J.
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Hamilton Co, IA Points: 5636 |
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I think that bit of steel is the internal valve bit of the injector. From an injector that broke. See he impression right next to where it finallt stuck in the piston, its pointed.
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Jordan(OH)
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Celina, OH Points: 1545 |
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Seems that's what you get when you go and paint something. I know a guy who had a Oliver 1850 painted, shortly afterward injection pump needed pulled and rebuilt.
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TexasAllis
Silver Level Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Texas Points: 396 |
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That must have made an awful noise.
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captaindana
Orange Level Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Fort Plain, NY Points: 2376 |
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Guys I dropped the head off to the guru, he will git er dun. Meantime I am somehow getting an original # 4022958 piston and #4023099 sleeve and rering the others; we should be good to growl again! It never made noise here...musta happened in it's pre 27 year hibernation days! Gerald I believe you are correct; thanks! I could hear the valces leaking so once they're corrected we shall see....still don't know why she starts to labor and knock and quit! My mech thought maybe the valves were floating and getting it out of time. He heard it...it didn't do this at first but lately every 10 minutes. Once I drop the pan we can check all the bearings. I have all the pan bolts out but need to jockey the wishbone anchor to drop pan! Thanks, Dana
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