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arcticcat 
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 Posted: 09 Mar 2013 at 9:21am |
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Panky. Mind your own business you dont no what you are talking about
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mlpankey
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Posted: 09 Mar 2013 at 8:51am |
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Ps don karpells old pulling engine was the first 4 3/4 bore engine i knew of and we all know how many years it was on the pulling circuit. Yes everyone that we do engines for is in hope that their coompetitors ignore me.
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Gary in da UP
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Posted: 09 Mar 2013 at 8:45am |
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mlpankey
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Posted: 09 Mar 2013 at 8:35am |
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Dr you want to see pictures of a 4 3/4 or a 4 7/8 .its possible and in the shop now. I have never lied to you and always appreciated you honesty and opinions when we have spoke in conversation
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DrAllis
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Posted: 09 Mar 2013 at 8:22am |
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Use of a deck plate might gain a little, but most Antique Clubs don't allow any deck plate spacers between block and cyl head.
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KGood
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Posted: 09 Mar 2013 at 7:32am |
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Our biggest is 4 1/2 bore and 6 1/8 stroke. Used an engine out of an E combine. We had a guy in our old club that went bigger bore. I don't remember what but he said he split two blocks so now he has some sort of tie rods going from side to side. His name is Ira Banter he is brother of the Banter brothers team that pulled multiple engines on there modified early on when not allot of people did that.
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DrAllis
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Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 11:18pm |
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The claim of 4 7/8" bore is impossible, in fact I don't think anyone has done 4 3/4" let alone 4 7/8".
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Carl(NWWI)
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Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 10:26pm |
 Glockhead SWMI wrote:
just ignore him guys... |
Hopefully we can do that. I'd hate to see the forum pulled, the wrong people kicked off, and posts overrun with nonsense and bs.
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Mrgoodwrench
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Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 9:40pm |
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from what i've read, as with most engine builds, you are only limited by your check book and class rules
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There are 3 ways to do job GOOD, FAST, CHEAP. YOU MAY CHOOSE 2. If its FAST & CHEAP it won't be GOOD, if it's GOOD & CHEAP it won't be FAST, and if its GOOD & FAST it won't be CHEAP!!!!
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Glockhead SWMI
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Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 8:44pm |
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just ignore him guys...
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mlpankey
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Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 8:37pm |
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Ask dr.allis how many cubic inches his is ask.brown how many cubic inches his is. Ask barney how many inches he ran in the antique class. Ask jr crum .Hayden Gibson. Mitch Pankey. Just ask them how many cubic inches they feel it takes to be competitive and go from there. Its only a matter of opinion.
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Ihateillinoisnazis
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Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 8:27pm |
mlpankey wrote:
You can vo kips way most of us do at first ifs just a waste of money causs if it gets in your blood you will want more and more and each time its more and more money |
One day after all the banning and you give us this much ammo to make fun of you with?
English. ...Type it!!!
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mlpankey
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Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 8:22pm |
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You can vo kips way most of us do at first ifs just a waste of money causs if it gets in your blood you will want more and more and each time its more and more money
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AC200Puller
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Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 7:03pm |
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Kip has it right and this would be a fairly cheap way to get started and you can always do more later.
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Gary in da UP
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Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 6:37pm |
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Fred, ......KIp is right on , ignore the panky post. Gary
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mlpankey
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Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 4:40pm |
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4 7/8 bore by 6 1/2 or more stroke.
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Kip-Utah
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Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 3:48pm |
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Using regular off the shelf parts a WC/WD engiine with 4" bore & 4" stroke is 201 cid. By increasing the bore to 4.125" you are now at 217 cid. Adding the 4.5" stroke WD45 crank to the larger bore now puts you right at 240 cid. Of course the stock WD45 or D17 is the 4" bore & 4.5" stroke combo at 226 cid. For a fairly mildly modified pulling engine I prefer the "Power Crater" pistons for a 170 or 175 that puts you around 7.75:1 compression with the 4.5" crank, but others wanting even more compression like to use WD flat top pistons with the 4.5" crank. Any of these combinations use the same rods, as everything from WC-D17 is the same length. Anything bigger than these combinations require custom sleeves and custom stroked cranks. Good Luck...Kip
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Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 2:59pm |
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Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 2:41pm |
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That's messed up post.... Or it may just be my (I pod)
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Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 11:48am |
Fellows that modify the 226 engine to gain more hp. What changes are made?
If bore and stroke were revised what would the new bore and stroke be.
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Fred Dunlop, G,B,CA, WC,WF, 3 WD45`s,gas, diesel and LP,U,D10 series III, D12,D14,D15 SERIES II,D17 Series IV in Gas and Diesel ,D19 GAS and D21,170 185,210 ,220 an I-600 8070 fwd, 716H and 1920H
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