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What Are These C's Worth?

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    Posted: 12 Mar 2016 at 7:04am
Looking at a couple of C's for my 8 year old.  First is an 80,xxx serial number.  Sheet metal is good other than grill has been creased good and the toolbox has been rusted and repaired.  Missing genny, but looks like it runs.  I plan on checking them over better today.  What is the drawbar on the back of this one?  Not in the parts book.  Steering on this one has the 1/4 turn of play and the shifter turns on this one.




Second looks rougher and has either a 5,xxx or 50,xxx serial number (can't see well).  Steering and shifter are tighter.  This one has 11.2 tires, the first has 12.4.  Not sure this one runs.  What would the mower be worth?  He wants to buy one with a mower so he can take it off and sell it to buy a sickle mower and maybe a set of plows.





Hoping to pick one of these up cheap.  if not, I can fall back to a local antique jockey that has a C with a belly mower.  These 2 would be my preference though.
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If they run decent $800-1000 is pretty fair IMO. Belly mower worth $2-400 if good shape. The hitch on the one is a drawbar.

Edited by AJ - 12 Mar 2016 at 7:21am
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I didn't think a C was worth that much.  Heck, I can buy good WD's all day long for that kind of money.  I could see a CA bringing that though.  The loop I know is the hitch, but no where in the parts book is that A frame setup found on a C.  Aftermarket to get to ASAE dimensions?
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#2 looks likes it has a LOT of oil OUT of the rear end,unless it's a shadow I'm seeing.I _might_ give $600 for the pair,as is where is. Unless running,at least 15 minutes YOU can't see if rads shot, gears grind, mower moves, brakes, etc. You know the deal...if it don't run it's 10% above scrap in value for me. At least if you buy the pair, you have some spare parts !
And.. how tall's your 8 years old? can he reach the pedals ??

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Tires alone on the first one would cost most of the 800-1000.
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I would offer 800 if it's in halfway decent shape. I've learned over the years that the woods mowers underneath can raise the value of a tractor alot
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Jay, he may be a bit short now, but it's something he really wants to do.  When we go look them over again today, I'm going to see how they "fit" him.  It sure would be nice to hear them run, but I'd be ok with not stuck.  Half the fun of owning them is getting them running.  Think I'm going to take a pipe wrench and try to turn them through the pto.
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The drawbar assemblies aren't listed in the parts book, but not uncommon. Acquired a NOS unit and was orange in color
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Drawbars made aftermarket for Allis Bs abd Cs by oxnards i paid $100 each 1o years ago at Le Seuer
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I've always found taking off The starter and putting a small bar in the flywheel is best. If it has weights along the sides almost like side rails...take those off when You try to free the motor up. My uncle had a bolt up against his flywheel on his that went Through one of those weights and it wouldn't allow the motor to turn
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The draw bar on the first one is a swinging draw bar. It and the ASAE draw bar were both add ones to bring the hitch point bac to enable use of standard equipment.assuming they run the first one should go from 600 to 1200 and the second one about 500 more. The mower is a L 59. I bought a new woods L306 15 years ago it was over 2000 at that time they still make them so parts are readily available just not cheep. You can usually buy three WD,s for the price of one CA. These engines are pretty simple and forgiving. If they turn over they'll run.
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I have found, if you have a woods mower like that to sell, nobody wants to give $300 for one, but If you find one for sale and want one, people seem to think they are worth a fortune.
 Buy both for $1000, clean up and fix the one with the mower and sell it to get your investment back. Then play with the other one for "free" Approve
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Originally posted by CTuckerNWIL CTuckerNWIL wrote:

I have found, if you have a woods mower like that to sell, nobody wants to give $300 for one, but If you find one for sale and want one, people seem to think they are worth a fortune.
 Buy both for $1000, clean up and fix the one with the mower and sell it to get your investment back. Then play with the other one for "free" Approve


I agree with Charlie completely.  Can't give it away if you own it, but when you need it, it's sky high!  Kinda like my stock market picks, buy high, sell low.  I'll never be able to retire!


Edited by Hubnut - 12 Mar 2016 at 11:05am
1940 B "Lucy"
1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia"
1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick"
1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie"
1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie"
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Well.  Gave them a better look over.  Both are pretty well stuck.  Pipewrench on the pto with my 260 standing on it got the one with no mower to wiggle a bit.  Mower one is tight tight.  Guessing barn stuck as they don't look like they've been outside.  I'd be ok with the no mower one even stuck, just because it is in overall the best shape of the 4 that I've looked at.  Both machines did have antifreeze in the radiators and oil on the dipsticks.  Guess Thursday will tell the tale when the auctioneer says "sold".
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Well good luck to ya
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From the Model "C" Manual.


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Interesting. That isn't in my 1950 parts manual. Haven't picked up an OP manual yet.
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Being both are stuck. I take back my idea about $1K for both of them. Maybe divide by 2 Ermm
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I'm with you, Charlie.  My fear is no one will say they are stuck.  I honestly thought the better looking one ran.  I could go a bit more on that one just because it has near new rubber on the rear and the sheet metal does look good.  I have 5 to choose from, will start with watching these two and go from there.
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I'm just getting into buying the AC tractors and I am curious as to how they sell so Keep us posted.  Thanks
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Aaron,
What did the c's bring at the auction?
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