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Joined: 13 May 2010
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    Posted: 13 May 2010 at 9:24pm
With a 5 or 5.5 in. crank is there a stock type piston that will work in a 226.
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I know a 5 inch stroke works with M&W 4.125" pistons from D17/WD45.....5 1/2" stroke is probably a bit much for the same piston.
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Thanks doc, i was hoping that i could talk to you about this kind of set up but i've lost your phone #. Did you build any of those drop in kits you talked about earlier this year? Got a WD that we're turning into a full time puller and would like your opinion on some things.   
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use a 400 cheverolet piston with a 1.6 compreshion height . you will have a 7.4 cr with a flat top. with a dome you could get some increase comp.ratio
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Thanks for the info but interested in making alot more compression.I have 115 octane available so I was trying to get to 10:1 or more if possible.
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Originally posted by YT YT wrote:

Thanks for the info but interested in making alot more compression.I have 115 octane available so I was trying to get to 10:1 or more if possible.
you need to run more than 10 to 1 if you are planning on running 115 octane.
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I know of a automotive piston that will yield 13.1 with the stock rods and 5.5 stroke with a deck height of 12.656
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I should have said up to 115. What octane does one need for a 10:1 CR? What about a 12:1?
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Can you tell me what piston or would you rather not say on here.
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I have 4 used arias forged 4.125 pistons I will sell that will yield that cr with the 7.5 long rod . or you can use a 7 1/4 long 153 farmall rod and 5 3/4 stroke for 11.1 cr or the 7 3/8 allis d19 or buda rod with the 5 3/4 stroke yields 14.1  . I ran that combination for two years on 110 motor octane with no promblems. pistons shiped to you for 300. I can get cast 4.188 new pistons that will do the same cr ratios for the same price but have to add shipping.

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I thought pricing a used forged top quality set of pistons at half its new market price would get some interest . I guess I was wrong.
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Originally posted by Lonn Lonn wrote:

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 Hold on, I know YT. He's not on here all the time but he'll check back in. I've seen the tractor that he's thinking about building up for a puller. I know he's serious about doing it right..That and he respects yours (mlpankey) and Dr. Allis 's knowlage on this subject..
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cwhitt I probably did jump to conclusions to soon . I get alot of calls and  questions what can be done on a 1500 dollar budget .  I laugh and say you only have a 1000 dollar budget for the bearings ,rings and gaskets eat up 500 easy.
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If it was easy (or cheap) anyone could do it.
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Sorry Mitch, Didn't see your last post till now. Still in the thought process of this build. Very interested in the parts and opinions you have. Just getting things sorted out.  
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Im going to try building a Allis WC for pulling and farm use. I was gonna put in a wd 45 crank, stock rods and slight cam work with flat top pistons but when i do the math I get  15 : 1 compression. I may have the math wrong but anyone got any advice to bring it down so i can still run pump gas and start it from the stock starter. 
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