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wildbill26 
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Posted: 01 Jul 2015 at 5:30pm |
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What engine would an h3 have? It is gas but what size?
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DiyDave
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Posted: 01 Jul 2015 at 5:48pm |
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I believe a 149 ci, same as a d-15, series 1
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chevytaHOE5674
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Posted: 02 Jul 2015 at 5:29am |
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I think it could also be a 160ci if its a late model H3.
Edited by chevytaHOE5674 - 02 Jul 2015 at 5:31am
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jughead
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Posted: 02 Jul 2015 at 7:43am |
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how would one tell the model? serial number?
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wildbill26
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Posted: 02 Jul 2015 at 7:54am |
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Thanks guys, I didn't know if it was a 149/ 160 or a 226
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DiyDave
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Posted: 02 Jul 2015 at 5:44pm |
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What shape hole is in the sheet metal where the muffler goes through?
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TOM H
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Posted: 03 Jul 2015 at 11:12am |
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The Allis Chalmers H3 gas was introduced in the fall of 1960 with an AC 149 CI motor. In 1963 at serial # 6001 it received the 160 CI AC motor. I believe the larger 160 CI coincided with the change to a dry air cleaner and an oval muffler at the same time.
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Calvin Schmidt
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Posted: 03 Jul 2015 at 6:47pm |
Even the first H-3 had an oval muffler. The oval is 7" the same as the D-10/12 Series III.
I have serial 1105 (1960) I don't think the 160 cu.in. later H-3 had a dry air cleaner.
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Posted: 04 Jul 2015 at 11:55am |
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you answered my question mine is 10k plus thanks to all.
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Posted: 04 Jul 2015 at 7:13pm |
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I stand corrected. Sorry. I shot from the hip. Calvin is correct in that ALL H3's had the oval muffler and also the dry air cleaner was added later after the engine was upgraded to the 160. The book by Norm Swinford states that the dry air cleaner was added when the engine was changed to 160 CI but the actual parts book shows a serial # change later in 1965 when the engine speeds were increased to 1600 RPM. I have a 1966 H3 #8961 and it does have both dry air cleaner and oval muffler although the muffler on there now is round due to prior owner could only find one like that. There is a place on side of block (hard to find)that gives serial # of engine and mine also has 160 before the serial number. It has the 6 way AC blade on it. Runs great but smokes a bit.
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Posted: 04 Jul 2015 at 7:37pm |
Here is a picture of my H3 after I built a dike with it. 
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Posted: 13 Jul 2015 at 1:04pm |
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would delete post but too dumb i guess
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Posted: 13 Jul 2015 at 1:07pm |
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one more question please the engine number on my h3is 2160 R the serial number on the unit is 10k plus would like the year model if possible thanks sorry about the blank post pushed the wrong button
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Posted: 18 Jul 2015 at 9:23am |
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any special reason no one has replied to my post. didnt think i was hi-jacking.
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Posted: 18 Jul 2015 at 11:38am |
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Norm's book says the last serial number for an h3 was 9949. Made in 1967.
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Posted: 19 Jul 2015 at 6:59am |
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oops i was told the serial number is located on the part that the dozer blade is fastened to in front of the radiator. now i am confused. dont know what is going on.
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Posted: 19 Jul 2015 at 7:22am |
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The serial number is located on the left side, on the torque tube or clutch housing just behind where the engine bolts in.
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Posted: 19 Jul 2015 at 7:52am |
 Look in the area of the white tape for the tractor number and just ahead of that, on the block, is the engine number.
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Posted: 19 Jul 2015 at 8:03am |
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will do. going back out there today and make sure this old man didnt write down numbers wrong. getting to where i have to triple check everything i do then have a 50 percent chance of being wrong
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Posted: 19 Jul 2015 at 8:54am |
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my previously posted numbers are correct. so what ever it is i got it and i am enjoying using it. thanks to all for putting up with me and my lack of knowledge but one doesnt get to old to learn.
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