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Posted: 27 May 2015 at 6:45am |
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Rough what kind of work would need to run 7th gear at 8500 lbs.
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Posted: 27 May 2015 at 6:46am |
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Posted: 27 May 2015 at 7:37am |
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What are your RULES ??? turbo size.....RPM limit......injection pump size/type......tire size ???????????????????
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Posted: 27 May 2015 at 11:41am |
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Rules pretty much open I want to stick to the rossa tires are 18.4 38 any turbo can go in using a Hx 35
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Posted: 27 May 2015 at 11:50am |
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3000 rpm
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Posted: 27 May 2015 at 12:08pm |
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At 8500 lbs, you better have bald rear tires.
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Posted: 27 May 2015 at 10:19pm |
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The pump will need to be a very good Roosa if that's what you are going to use. Have Ed do it. He will get every drop of delivery out of it which you will need.
- It will take a dual disk clutch.
- You will have to remove the power director clutch.
- You will most likely need more than 301 cubic inches.
- If you can run an ice water intercooler do it. You will need that too.
- The HX35 might be okay depending on what you do otherwise.
Then.... if you still can't run the standard 7th gear you can install D 19 low side PD gears which will make low side slower.
Are you the one that emailed me on the 341 cube engine kit?
Won't be easy, but could (possibly) be done. With an inline pump could certainly be done.
Now, what will you be competing against?? If it is big 400 series Internationals and John Deeres you might want to consider a bigger tractor.
Good luck
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Posted: 28 May 2015 at 10:03am |
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Competition right now is a 4320 but I'm making more power just need some more momentum 6th gear says I'm running between 8.7 and 8.9 mph. Doesn't phase motor one bit ed built pump now and it runs strong
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Posted: 28 May 2015 at 12:37pm |
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but it is only a .390 right? A .450 will be a big difference!
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Posted: 28 May 2015 at 2:42pm |
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Yeah its still 390 should any head work or cam be done or just put 450 head on
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Posted: 28 May 2015 at 4:54pm |
Do you have any video of your tractor pulling? If the AC pullers on this forum see it pulling it is easier for them to offer advice.
Edited by Beirnesy - 29 May 2015 at 4:48pm
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Posted: 28 May 2015 at 6:53pm |
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Oh wow, just my opinion, but if your now running a .390, a 450 pump head Will very noticeable improvement, I had that 180 running 7th pretty easy on a cool night
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Posted: 28 May 2015 at 7:27pm |
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At 8500 lbs?????????????
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Posted: 28 May 2015 at 8:05pm |
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I haven't tried 7th but 6th gear I pull 8500 and 9500 and has no affect on motor.
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Posted: 28 May 2015 at 8:24pm |
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Allis Chalmers 200 central Jersey tractor pullers on YouTube
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Posted: 28 May 2015 at 8:34pm |
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Mine was at 7500, and did strain it but that's pulling
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Posted: 28 May 2015 at 9:10pm |
 200 allis wrote:
Allis Chalmers 200 central Jersey tractor pullers on YouTube |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GjuyX4m3ww
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU3vCkkxEB0
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Posted: 30 May 2015 at 9:19am |
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Big difference between running 6th and running 7th.......big difference.
When you get enough power to run 7th, there are other things that need to be done to handle the amount of power the engine will develop. I always recommend hardened connecting rods, a good head gasket, a clutch that will hold etc. You can take a stock farm tractor and run 6th gear with a different pump and injectors, stiffen the clutch and increase the pressure on the PD clutch - no other changes. To run 7th includes many more things to make it work correctly and not break.
Edited by O.P.S. Heads - 30 May 2015 at 9:23am
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Posted: 30 May 2015 at 2:38pm |
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Rods are hardened good head and have good clutch im going to try 7th if track is dry. Main problem was egts but water injection took care of that going to try 50% methanol
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Posted: 30 May 2015 at 10:39pm |
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Keep us posted.
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Posted: 18 Dec 2015 at 9:52pm |
How did the rest of the pulling season go?
Edited by Beirnesy - 19 Dec 2015 at 8:56pm
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Posted: 21 Dec 2015 at 4:53pm |
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Rest of season went well tractor runs really strong. Ran 7th gear rest of season but clutch started to give out so I just ran lite in 8500lb class.i have a lot of plans for it but it's expensive from here on out.i have to figure out how to put videos on.
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Posted: 21 Dec 2015 at 5:53pm |
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Watch "Best of Burlington County Farm Fair Tractor Pull" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/lk45J5CXkGo
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Posted: 21 Dec 2015 at 5:54pm |
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Mine is in original clothes
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Posted: 21 Dec 2015 at 6:46pm |
thanks for sharing, good to see the AC 220 and AC D-21 as well as your XT, put a little paint on your rims will dresser up a bit. Can't see the top speed of 7th @ 3000rpm because of the darn pole.
Edited by Beirnesy - 25 Dec 2015 at 3:47pm
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Posted: 21 Dec 2015 at 8:07pm |
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Speed was around 12.5mph with 34. Going to put 38s back on and have ed put 450 head on mine.
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