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weight of model D grader?

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    Posted: 15 Nov 2010 at 10:56pm
Does anybody know off hand the weight of a D grader gas with no cab??   Learned of one that went to junk today and may buy it back if it ain't too late.  -Wes
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8500-10,000 is what I come up with,I think 8500# is what I'd pay in scrap if that's what you're trying to find out.
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Sure is...thanks Lee
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Square frame gas is 8800#,  diesel is 9350#.  Older round frame is listed as the same weight. Information taken from the respective Allis brochures. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote LoggerLee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Nov 2010 at 4:26pm
I knew someone who actually knew what the weight was would chime in,sometimes ya just gotta prime the net :)
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I didn't get to it in time...  I knew the guy that hauled it down there too and he said it needed a manifold on the engine.  He had it runnin' though.   And he knows I like Allis stuff! kinda ticks me off!
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Man Wes,I'm sorry to hear that bro,one of those graders are just a handy size IMO :(
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What is the Length and Width of the Model D Grader?

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Length 18'4", width 6' 1 3/4".
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OAL about 20', width just over 6' for the grader to the outside of the wheels. A bit more depending on mouldboard length even when fully rotated. Possibly closer to 8' if it has a 12' mouldboard. Height with a cab over 7.5'.  
Too bad about the scrap machine as they may be the only source for some parts.
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This may help. I once moved my 'D' ( gasser - 1967 ) with a 'tilt & go' truck. You will need a long bed as there is generally a winch, or other apparatus, taking up some bed length.[
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You can move it with an 18' rollback.  Just put it on back end first, and set the blade down against the bed, lifting and dangling the front wheels...
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Hi. Yes you can 'dangle' the front wheels/axle behind the truck tail, but that sure would not be very safe , or legal. Would it?
The literature for a round frame ( 1959 model ) also shows the same measurements. It is my understanding that these graders may have been shipped with the rear tires 'loaded'.   Ross.
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Depends on how far you are trucking it, and if you have to go by any chicken coops, on the way, I suppose...
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We just moved one from east of Des Moines to Minneapolis on a 24 foot Kaufman tilt deck trailer. We loaded it forward on to the trailer. Balance was great. Pulled it with an F350- no problem at all. It was a 1956 D special with 12 foot blade and scarifier-no cab, Probably 9000#.
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Just got a call from a freind of mine that has an Allis grader he wants to sell me, It looks like the D in the picture but this one is orange and has a round tube to the front wheels, What would this be? It has a 4 cylinder gas engine, He wants me to have it to put with my tractor collection, I don't even know what to offer. It is in great condition but has not ran for 4 to 5 years, has been inside though. This is a one owner grader.
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The  serial number would answer  your questions. Year, engine model, etc.
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Originally posted by Steve Bright Steve Bright wrote:

Just got a call from a freind of mine that has an Allis grader he wants to sell me, It looks like the D in the picture but this one is orange and has a round tube to the front wheels, What would this be? It has a 4 cylinder gas engine, He wants me to have it to put with my tractor collection, I don't even know what to offer. It is in great condition but has not ran for 4 to 5 years, has been inside though. This is a one owner grader.
Thanks for any input.
 

If it means anything, I paid $ 5900, at auction, for my DD (diesel, 230 Buda), top of the market, a couple 6-8 years ago.  $100 bucks more, and somebody else would've owned it...
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Some of the earlier ones were orange and up until 1964 they were built with the tube type frame. Mine is a 1959 and it is orange and some of that vintage were yellow as well. Most of the early Allis construction equipment was orange.
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Hi.   I hope that this article may help.    Ross.
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Yeah, I like the leaning front wheels on my DD, when an arshluch in a corvette tries to pass you, you lean the tires left at the top, and rip the trim off of his passenger door...
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OK guys, checked out the D grader today, It is complete, has not ran in 2 or 3 years, tires look like new. small dent in the grill around the radiator. yellow in color. Serial number D-1305. What year and is it worth $2,000
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Gas, 1951

Diesel, 1956

Definitely worth $2000
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Yes. it appears to be a 1951.   Ross,
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Dave,

Would you know what year D-6207 would be? Maybe a 62?
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Originally posted by W Speedy W Speedy wrote:

Dave,

Would you know what year D-6207 would be? Maybe a 62?

Very late '63 6243 and up, '64Wink
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thanks Dave. Got it running. Front is pretty wobbly. Pulled the starter and generator for service. 2nd &3rd are frozen. I’ll pull the cover when it warms up and see what’s up. 


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Dave,

Would you know the torque specification for the D grader axle nut?

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Originally posted by W Speedy W Speedy wrote:

Dave,

Would you know the torque specification for the D grader axle nut?

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I only have the parts manual, if I'm looking at the right nut, it appears to be a 5/8" NC nut, possibly a castle nut with a retaining wire/cotter pin.  According to standard torque charts, 73 ft-lbs should be sufficient for grade 2.  If the service manual says more, I would defer to that value. if anyone has the shop manual handy, feel free to chime in!Wink
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