This site is not affiliated with AGCO Inc., Duluth GA., Allis-Chalmers Co., Milwaukee, WI., or any surviving or related corporate entity. All trademarks remain the property of their respective owners. All information presented herein should be considered the result of an un-moderated public forum with no responsibility for its accuracy or usability assumed by the users and sponsors of this site or any corporate entity.
The Forum Parts and Services Unofficial Allis Store Tractor Shows Serial Numbers History
Forum Home Forum Home > Other Topics > Pulling Forum
  New Posts New Posts
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login


Fire went out

 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
Message
Juiceman View Drop Down
Silver Level
Silver Level


Joined: 26 Aug 2013
Location: West Virginia
Points: 110
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Juiceman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Fire went out
    Posted: 23 Apr 2014 at 9:11pm
Just got our wd45 running yesterday after a total rebuild with different crank, cam, rods and pistons, head, etc. She's running a little rich and smokes a little. Dad drove it over to a friends house, to wire in lights and do little odds and ends on it. On the way home going up the hill it smoothed out and ran great for like 10 seconds, and then it started surging, like it would be wide open and then it would do nothing, wide open, etc.. Finally it quit. So after realizing she wasn't locked up, the dodge and i pulled dad the rest of the way home. Im thinking maybe we have a fuel delivery problem, since it was surging like that, but i guess it could be electrical. Haven't checked it out yet, just shoved it back in the garage. what do you think it could possibly be?
Back to Top
Sponsored Links


Back to Top
steve(ill) View Drop Down
Orange Level Access
Orange Level Access
Avatar

Joined: 11 Sep 2009
Location: illinois
Points: 81384
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote steve(ill) Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Apr 2014 at 9:32pm
surging could be fuel... or could be the coil got hot and died.. Try it again the the morning when the coil has cooled off... check spark if it dont start.
Like them all, but love the "B"s.
Back to Top
IL-D17 View Drop Down
Bronze Level
Bronze Level
Avatar

Joined: 08 Jul 2012
Location: Clay City IL
Points: 49
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote IL-D17 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Apr 2014 at 11:23pm
Check the float level in the carb. Its possible its set a little high which is trying to flood it causing the richness or smoking. When you started up the hill the angle of gas level in bowl changed letting the needle shutoff the flow to bowl allowing it to run well for the short bit it did. IDK, just a guess from what info you've give. Goodluck
Back to Top
Dipstick In View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 11 Sep 2009
Location: Remington, In.
Points: 8602
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dipstick In Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 May 2014 at 2:40pm
Maybe it's just a flatland or downhill tractor!
You don't really have to be smart if you know who is!
Back to Top
cotncrzy View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level


Joined: 07 Oct 2009
Location: TENNESSEE
Points: 599
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cotncrzy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 May 2014 at 6:49am
I had one mess me up bad last night.... I went out to crank our puller to load for today. She fired right up, ran good for about 2 seconds and began to miss, then finally blowing fuel all over me it went to one cyl. I shut it down. I pulled the plugs, they were soaked, spinning the engine there was no fire.
  MSD equipped, I tested it first, checked good, O ohmed the coil, it only checked 1.5, used to be 4.5. I replaced it. I now had fire out of the coil wire but couldnt get it to the plugs.
  Long story short, I had just replaced the cap and button before Tunica's southern nationals, the tractor had made about 10 or 12 passes on it so wasn't lookin at them.  The problem was solved when I put another rotor button in... Grrrrrr, spent hours checkin voltage, etc. Sometimes and most of the time the simplest things fix em. Don't look to hard!
C, WD45,WD puller, 185, 200, 7060 Red Belly, 7060 Black Belly,8010, and a R52 Gleaner, AND PROUD OF THEM!
Back to Top
Juiceman View Drop Down
Silver Level
Silver Level


Joined: 26 Aug 2013
Location: West Virginia
Points: 110
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Juiceman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 May 2014 at 7:49am
Well simple it was! It ran out of gas. Never dreamed it would burn three gallon in less than an hour. Ive never been around anything but stock engines, so this was a very big surprise. Lol and glad its going to cost 24 dollars an hour to run this thing... Not!!    Haha oh well it runs meaner than a snake! We had a rear main leak really bad, so pulled it back apart again. Should have it back together by the end of next week and hopefully get it on the dyno the 12th of this month. And pull the 17th. We r missing a club pull today, but its just bad luck. Lol
Back to Top
wi50 View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level


Joined: 24 Sep 2010
Location: weegieland
Points: 1010
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote wi50 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 May 2014 at 1:48pm
I haven't bought any recently, but Napa or Echlin parts seam to be the best quality,  Brass terminals in cap and rotor.  The aluminum parts from many suppliers are just plain junk....that said I think the cap on my AC is a junk one, I better put a new one on before I hook it the end of the month.

I'm really not a fan of MSD boxes on these low speed 4 cyl engines.  I do like MSD stuff, but I just think it's over complicating something that is already pretty simple. 

Juiceman, double check the flange end of the crankshaft, some cranks have a wick in them (you'll see a cork or black solid crud in the center) and others are solid.  It could get burned out when welding the main journals back up or be falling apart from many years.  If it is, drill and tap and put a pipe plug in the end, maybe just do it anyways for good measure.  If you are unable to drill and tap it for a plug, simply dig stuff out and put some silicone or epoxy in the hole.

Don't worry about fuel.  We're probably around $3500 per hour for fuel (5-6 gal in 12 to 15 seconds at $2.75 per gal) if I figure it out...but we only run a few minutes per season at that fuel rate.  Fuel's cheap, it's the maintenance and traveling that sting.


Edited by wi50 - 03 May 2014 at 2:04pm
"see what happens when you have no practical experience doing something...... you end up playing with calculators and looking stupid on the internet"
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 11.10
Copyright ©2001-2017 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.064 seconds.


Help Support the
Unofficial Allis Forum