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    Posted: 01 Jun 2013 at 8:40am
THIS IS A UPDATE FROM THE POST LAST FALL ABOUT THE ALLIS BUILT V8-V12 ENGINES.I HAD A LEAD ABOUT THESE ENGINES FROM A FORMER ALLIS MECHANIC THAT USED TO WORK FOR DD KENNEDY(ALLIS CONST DEALER)THAT THERE WAS ALLIS 65000 GENERATOR(V12) IN THE BASEMENT OF THE HOSPITAL IN HARVEY,IL.I THOUGHT THE THING WOULD HAVE BEEN REPLACED A LONG TIME AGO.ABOUT 4 WEEKS AGO I GOT CURIOUS AND MADE THE CALL. I FOUND OUT THAT NOT ONLY WAS THE V12 STILL THER AND RUNNING AS A EMERGENCY GENERATOR,BUT IT WAS SCHEDULED TO BE REPLACED ANY WEEK!!!!TO MAKE A LONG STORY SHORT IT,IT IS SITTING AT MY SHOP IN WESTVILLE,IN.(INFO-ALLIS-CHALMERS 65000 V-12 ENGINE-6X6 B/S,2037CI,TWIN TURBO,900HP,BUILT DEC.1972-)I FILMED THE OLD HARVEY ENGINE PLANT AND GENERATOR REMOVAL AND WILL HAVE A LINK TO UTUBE SHORTLY.
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That a great peice of good timeing. It's always good to follow your instinks ASAP.
I know where there are two others, one with the A-C 550 KW generator and the other
with another brand generator. I have literature. Very interesting engines. I can't find any information that the V-8 version ever went into production.
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Excellent! Looking forward to seeing the youtube vid.
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congratulations, that is quite a score.
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And excellent timing!  I'm always a week too late.
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Theres another in St Louis that i ran across,, still like brand new!
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TO ELABERATE ON CALS THREAD,THE V8'S DID NOT GO INTO PRODUCTION-THEY WERE USED FOR TESTING UNITS.ALLIS SAID THER WAS A STRONGER MARKET FOR THE V12.APARENTLY FROM MY SERVICE BULLITAINS THAT WASN'T THE CASE,MY BULLJTAINS ONLY SHOW TO SERIAL #55.THE ENGINE FROM HARVEY IS SERIAL #6.I WOULD GUESS ALLIS MADE THEM FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS?MAYBE SOMEBODY OUT THERE KNOWS MORE OF THE STORY.
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Video yet?
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DON-TALKED TO MY GUY,WORKING ON THE VIDEO THIS WEEKEND.HOPEFULLY WILL BE DONE IN A DAY OR SO.
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Originally posted by big al big al wrote:

TO ELABERATE ON CALS THREAD,THE V8'S DID NOT GO INTO PRODUCTION-THEY WERE USED FOR TESTING UNITS.ALLIS SAID THER WAS A STRONGER MARKET FOR THE V12.APARENTLY FROM MY SERVICE BULLITAINS THAT WASN'T THE CASE,MY BULLJTAINS ONLY SHOW TO SERIAL #55.THE ENGINE FROM HARVEY IS SERIAL #6.I WOULD GUESS ALLIS MADE THEM FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS?MAYBE SOMEBODY OUT THERE KNOWS MORE OF THE STORY.
EX engine plant employee here; just found this thread and I know it's an old thread but, I believe I can add to the knowledge base for these special engines. I was one of the first builders (not assemblers) of the proto type V12 production engines.
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Well ACjack, go ahead and spill your guts if u wish. Is there a video of the start/running of these engine?
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Not that I'm aware of but, I do know that there was a story on the V 12 in the company news magazine. Big Al said in another thread that he'd gotten a hold of some pictures.
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Sooooooo...do we get to see a video of this monster running? I'd love to hear it run.
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There is a video on Youtube of them lifting the engine out of the hospital. The engine was at the GOTO in LaPorte this summer and it was running. Very impressive! There must be a video of that some where.
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Originally posted by DougG DougG wrote:

Theres another in St Louis that i ran across,, still like brand new!

One of the earlier gen sets was sent out to Tucson, AZ. It was the back up power for Bio-sphere 2.
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Originally posted by Calvin Schmidt Calvin Schmidt wrote:

There is a video on Youtube of them lifting the engine out of the hospital. The engine was at the GOTO in LaPorte this summer and it was running. Very impressive! There must be a video of that some where.
I've watched that video earlier this year but I want see one of it running. Anyone know how many RPMs it turns? That thing has to bellar.
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Originally posted by ACjack ACjack wrote:

Originally posted by DougG DougG wrote:

Theres another in St Louis that i ran across,, still like brand new!

One of the earlier gen sets was sent out to Tucson, AZ. It was the back up power for Bio-sphere 2.
I'd love to get a hold off one of those engines and squeeze it into my 8550.
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I remember reading that before Allis went under in 85' that they where working on designs for a 900 hp tractor, was this the engine they were going to use?
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Still waiting on the startup/ running video

Edited by DonDittmar - 28 Oct 2014 at 7:02pm
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Originally posted by grinder220 grinder220 wrote:

Originally posted by Calvin Schmidt Calvin Schmidt wrote:

There is a video on Youtube of them lifting the engine out of the hospital. The engine was at the GOTO in LaPorte this summer and it was running. Very impressive! There must be a video of that some where.
I've watched that video earlier this year but I want see one of it running. Anyone know how many RPMs it turns? That thing has to bellar.
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Originally posted by grinder220 grinder220 wrote:

Originally posted by Calvin Schmidt Calvin Schmidt wrote:

There is a video on Youtube of them lifting the engine out of the hospital. The engine was at the GOTO in LaPorte this summer and it was running. Very impressive! There must be a video of that some where.
I've watched that video earlier this year but I want see one of it running. Anyone know how many RPMs it turns? That thing has to bellar.

Being in a 60 hertz gen set the rpm's would have to be 1,800
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Originally posted by grinder220 grinder220 wrote:

I remember reading that before Allis went under in 85' that they where working on designs for a 900 hp tractor, was this the engine they were going to use?

Don't know about that but, one of the first 12 engines built was a 61000 (800 hp @ 2100 rpm's) that was sent down to Springfield, IL. We heard it was going into a HD41.
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This picture was taken a Laporte last summer.
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Cannot remember the model year but it was a Freightliner COE while I worked in Salt Lake City in 1980/81 that a fiend had a Allis inline engine. Could possibly have been a 78 or 79 model year as had a lot of miles and parts were getting hard to come by. We ran for IML Eagle Division(Special Commodities). He traded it that year on a KW K100C with a Cat 3406.
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Originally posted by DMiller DMiller wrote:

Cannot remember the model year but it was a Freightliner COE while I worked in Salt Lake City in 1980/81 that a fiend had a Allis inline engine. Could possibly have been a 78 or 79 model year as had a lot of miles and parts were getting hard to come by. We ran for IML Eagle Division(Special Commodities). He traded it that year on a KW K100C with a Cat 3406.

A fiend in need is a fiend indeed...
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I got this out of my book The Allis Chalmers Story.
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By my calculations it is 1357 c.i.d.
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The V-12 was 2035 cu.in.   The V-8 was 1357 cu.in.  Serial # 43 is near me.  I have seen 3  V-12's and heard two run. First learned about the V-12 and saw my first one about 7 years ago.

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Serial # 43 is near me
Was it sold through a dealer by the name of John (G?) Steel? We shipped a lot of gen sets and some V12 sets up there also. 



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I think I'm taking serial #51 out of a hospital know trying to find a weight for it for crane company
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