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Russ-neia
Silver Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NE Iowa Points: 489 |
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Posted: 19 Sep 2009 at 2:14pm |
Something I have been wanting to try for a while... 18.4Rx46 rears with 14.9Rx34 fronts... Front axle moved ahead to 110" wheelbase (from 96" factory setting).
Set at 90" tread at rear in this picture, can go as wide as 95" or reverse wheels and set down to 60", but no hub duals that way... Fronts are at 84" tread now (widest setting) and can drop down by 4" increments. No wheel stops at wide setting and does not touch frame or hood. Used standard "stub disc" rear wheels salvaged from a NH Genesis and standard fronts from NH/CIH/JD. Had to drill 4 new holes in each rear wheel to mate up with the Allis 16-hole pattern in the cast center. And yes, they will clear the cab, but can't use snow chains! Before the conversion, I had 18.4x38 bias on the rear and 13.6x28 bias on the front. I use this tractor extensively for haying and spraying. It doesn't turn very short when set at 60" for spraying corn, so I have been running 90" and straddling 3 rows, which works pretty well. Leaving the wheels at 90" also lets me straddle large windrows and swaths when haying, so I don't have to move the wheels back and forth. The taller tires will give me a little more ground clearance for spraying and going over tall windrows when round baling. I gained about 2.5 mph road speed, to about 22-22.5 mph maximum. The top of the drawbar went from 16.5" to 20"; the bottom of the FWA differential went from 16.5" to 20.5" and the bottom of the cab steps went from 21.5" to 25". I may add another step to the bottom of the cab ladders yet. The longer wheelbase, radial tires and larger size tires all add together to make an incredible improvement in the ride in the field and especially on the road! |
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everett048
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: uk Points: 619 |
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nice conversion but what front axle lead do you have over the rear wheels to avoid trasmission wind up recommended front axle lead is no more than 5% did you work the conversion out yourself or did you get a tire company to do it also are your inter axle ratios and mechanical ratios correct for that set up if not you risk serious transmission problems
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IndianaBuckeye
Bronze Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Goshen, Indiana Points: 84 |
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Looks good. What do you have to do to move the front axle forward?
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Russ-neia
Silver Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NE Iowa Points: 489 |
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Tire recommendations to maintain the factory FWA ratio were unanimous from Michelin, Firestone and custom wheel maker in Des Moines. All said I needed 14.9x34 fronts to match up with 46" rears, given the other tire combinations originally available from A-C.
The tractor would set more level with 30" fronts, but the FWA 8000 have always been high in the front. I'm not ballasting it down heavily and all anecdotal evidence indicates the ratio is just right, with the front tires pulling just a touch faster than the rears, by looking at tracks in the dirt.
To move the front axle ahead, you need to cut off part of the 2wd casting under the radiator so that is out of the way of the FWA differential housing. Need to drill four new holes in bottom of frame rails to slide ahead. Also need about 12" longer steering hoses and lengthen driveshaft (this was the most $$$ part!) |
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GBACBFan
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Green Bay WI Points: 2662 |
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I'll never have a tractor that big, Russ, but the details of the modification and the pictures supporting the mods are most enjoyable to view and read. The tractor looks great with the changes, and the wheel mods are particularly interesting. Thanks for this most interesting post.
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BigBadAllis
Silver Level Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Location: Michigan Points: 90 |
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Very nice pics. The 8010 with MFD is great for haying or spraying since you typically don't require much HP to do it. Never liked using the 8010 for light tillage since with the PS it seemed to lack the HP. Our 200 played with the same implements that bogged down the 8010.
Jason
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Wes (VA)
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Elkton, VA Points: 510 |
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Awesome! Did you have to cut the rear rims out to fit the cast wheel center, besides just drilling 4 new holes?? I dare say that this is one trend that may have come had Allis stayed in business longer..more tire options that is. Although they did offer 42's on the 7000 series... -Wes
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michaelwis
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Wi Points: 8765 |
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NICE JOB !!!! |
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Byron WC in SW Wi
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Wisconsin Points: 1635 |
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I'd say you got something there. Looks good too.
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