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Tracy Martin TN 
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 Topic: HD4 steering clutch and brakes?
Posted: 03 Oct 2011 at 9:43pm |
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Can RH and LH steering clutches be replaced without removing hyd tank and fuel tank?Looks like work to me. Any tips on replacing them? Best place for parts?Thanks Tracy Martin
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Tracy Martin TN
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Posted: 04 Oct 2011 at 12:58pm |
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Where is Coke? Tracy Martin
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Coke-in-MN
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Posted: 04 Oct 2011 at 1:36pm |
Now my memory on that machine .. LOL been a long time and wonder if i want to forget.
I believe you can get into cases from top with tanks in place , sliding that axle back and getting to the clip to be able to slide axle will have you standing on your head.
Parts , guess check rock and dirt adds for dismantle-rs for used and Minn-par for new .
Mine had a single disk clutch in it rather than multi-plate and auburn style pressure plate.
As it seemed the left side was the side I was into most but for having the case machined as the bearings on the axle shaft ate into the case the case had to have new race area welded into casting.
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Posted: 04 Oct 2011 at 1:47pm |
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trying to remember how much of back of machine comes off , panle behind seat, seat, battery tray and such and if you can get into everything from the back side. believe both tanks hang outboard above tracks enough it gives you clearance to get to everything .
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Randaleky
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Posted: 04 Oct 2011 at 1:47pm |
I BELIEVE YOU CAN PULL THE SEAT OUT AND REMOVE THE TOPS OF THE CLUTCH AREA. WHEN YOU UNHOOK THE BRAKE BAND FROM FOOT AND LEVER, WORK IT TO ONE SIDE. I USED A BENT ( 90 DEGREE ) THIN FLAT SCREW DRIVER TO LIFT THE CLIP OUT OF SLOT IN SPLINED AXLE. ONCE AXLE IS SLID OUT OF WAY, REMOVE 2 INCH PLUG FROM BACK OF FINAL HOUSING. A RING OF 6 BOLTS WILL RELEASE THE CLUTCH PACK. YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO LIFT THE PACK OUT WITH THE BRAKE BAND. ASSEMBLEY WILL REUIRE PROBABLY TWO PEOPLE IN ORDER TO LINE BACK UP WITH THE 6 BOLTL. BE SURE TO PUT A GUAGE 16 WIRE BENT IN AXLE SLOT WHEN REASEMBLY IN ORDER TO PULL AXLE OUT FOR CLIP WHEN BOLTED IN. A COMPLETE BRAKE BAND FROM ILLINI CONSTRUCTION PARTS IS AROUN 140.00 EACH. THEY CAN GET ANY PART YOU WILL NEED. I DEAL WITH KEVIN . KHOPE THIS HELPS RANDALEKY
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Tracy Martin TN
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Posted: 04 Oct 2011 at 4:35pm |
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Thanks for info. Tracy Martin
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Coke-in-MN
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Posted: 04 Oct 2011 at 5:15pm |
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you can also check some small brake shops they can get lining in bulk , I believe McMaster Carr carried it at one time also. Some truck shops should have lining also as older trucks used emergency brake drum on driveshaft.
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tomwestky
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Posted: 06 Oct 2011 at 2:18pm |
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You are correct about standing on you head. Nearly an impossible task for an old man who is 6'6", weighs 280 and has trifocals. But.....I'm making progress.
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Posted: 02 Jan 2012 at 2:37pm |
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Tomwestky.....How much would you need to drive to aurora and show me the clip? I just cant see it! Thanks, Mike 2704742778
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Posted: 02 Jan 2012 at 2:39pm |
or I could come to crofton....you're by hoptown right?
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Posted: 02 Jan 2012 at 4:59pm |
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Thanks for the call Tom. VICTORY!!!! That steer clutch is on the floor.....
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hilltop615
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Posted: 03 Jan 2012 at 9:24am |
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Tracey Martain, I've worked on a lot of equipment(and everything else) over time but i'm just kinda getting into the AC equipment. I'm not far from you down in Murfreesboro if you ever need a hand with yours. I'd like to gain a little more experience with the lil dozers so if you ever need an extra set of hands let me know.
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Posted: 03 Jan 2012 at 2:10pm |
Awesome! Always good to meet new folks. Especially when messing around with obsolete (allis chalmers) or just plain weird (datsuns?) stuff. We own a campground here in Aurora (Aurora Oaks) and are putting in a vineyard......so I NEVER turn down free labo...I mean help. On a side note, I got rid of the engine driven fan. A 16" electric works great. I found a great parts (new and used outlet in columbus,oh. Call jack direct at 614 443 0596. Crane and Tractor Inc. Great folks there and really went above and beyond! Tell him Mike from Aurora ky sent y'all.
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Posted: 19 Jun 2024 at 8:19am |
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Do you have any pictures of the tetaing clip you referred to hd4 clutch.
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Coke-in-MN
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Posted: 19 Jun 2024 at 9:10pm |
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Small flat spring clip that indexes into axle shaft
In some cases make a wire loop around axle before pushing it into tube as it's easy to retrieve from hole it moves into and it gives you more room to work in the clutch case .
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Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something.
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