190XT Clutch

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   I am looking at a 190 XT that has some clutch issues.  The clutch both slips and sticks.  It is hard to get it in gear when the tractor is running.  All forward progress can be stopped by pressing the brakes and not touching the clutch.  It seems to slip more in low than high.  Has anyone dealt with this issue before and what needs to be done to fix it.
Thank you in advance for your help.

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55WD45d Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 24 Oct 2011 Points: 41	Post Options Post Reply Quote 55WD45d Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: 190XT Clutch Posted: 01 Dec 2011 at 6:25pm
	I am looking at a 190 XT that has some clutch issues. The clutch both slips and sticks. It is hard to get it in gear when the tractor is running. All forward progress can be stopped by pressing the brakes and not touching the clutch. It seems to slip more in low than high. Has anyone dealt with this issue before and what needs to be done to fix it. Thank you in advance for your help.

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Tony Elo Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: guelph ontario Points: 256	Post Options Post Reply Quote Tony Elo Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 Dec 2011 at 6:59pm
	are you talking about the foot clutch?from what you are describing it sounds like there might be broken springs in the clutch or the input shaft of the transmission is worn or burred,not allowing the clutch to slide on the shaft

55WD45d Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 24 Oct 2011 Points: 41	Post Options Post Reply Quote 55WD45d Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 Dec 2011 at 7:16pm
	Yes it is the foot clutch. The tractor seems to move pretty well with the power director in high but the tractor still moves in both N and Low with a lot of slip. Thanks

stray Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 16 Aug 2011 Location: Tipton, Missour Points: 323	Post Options Post Reply Quote stray Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 Dec 2011 at 7:41pm
	It sound like you may have problems with both the power director clutch and the foot clutch. Being hard to get in gear would be a foot clutch problem, like a broken spring, a pilot bearing out of it, or the clutch disk binding on the input shaft, or to much free travel in the foot clutch. Still moving when the Power Director is in neutral is a problem with the hand clutch, bushing for the control arm worn, miss adjusted linkage, wrapped clutch pack disk and plates. I would think that the first place to start would be eleminate the foot clutch problem first. Check the free travel of the clutch pedal it should be around 1 1/2" to 2" if it is more than that adjust that linkage, and see if it will go in gear then. If it does then find out where it is slipping.
	1969 190XT series 3

55WD45d Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 24 Oct 2011 Points: 41	Post Options Post Reply Quote 55WD45d Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 Dec 2011 at 8:57pm
	On a somewhat related topic, is the Power Director designed to be shifted under load. I was told that they were not when I was looking at a tractor but that would seem to defeat the purpose. Thanks again

stray Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 16 Aug 2011 Location: Tipton, Missour Points: 323	Post Options Post Reply Quote stray Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 Dec 2011 at 9:13pm
	I've never heard that, I think the Power Director Clutch is one off the smoothest working clutches while under a load.
	1969 190XT series 3

m16ty Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 28 Jan 2011 Location: TN Points: 1474	Post Options Post Reply Quote m16ty Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 Dec 2011 at 10:04pm
	Yes, shift that PD under load. Won't hurt a thing. They will even hold back going down a hill unlike the Junk TA on the red tractors. Power directors are like anything else, they will eventually wear out over time. You hardly ever hear one being torn up from abuse though and it takes many hours to wear one out. They are pretty darned tough. Edited by m16ty - 01 Dec 2011 at 10:05pm

TimNearFortWorth Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Dec 2009 Points: 2014	Post Options Post Reply Quote TimNearFortWorth Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 Dec 2011 at 6:38am
	The old saying on the Red ones; put a dollar in a coffee can, every time you touch the T/A handle cuz your going to need it for the upcoming rebuild . . . . . .