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    Posted: 18 Nov 2011 at 9:43pm
Might start looking for a skidsteer. Hoping for tracked one. Any knowledge out there on these Posi-Trac units? Can they be had for less than $6,000 in reasonable shape? Thanks

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I'm not sure you can find a decent one for $6K. The track machines are nice but those tracks can cost a lot on money when they wear out.

I've never owned of operated a Posi-Trac. I do know several people that have and they didn't really like them. We've got a couple of New Holland wheeled machines (LS160 and LS180) and are well pleased with them.

A friend of mine has a Bobcat and I don't like it at all. It's not balanced nearly as well as the New Holland, can't see behind you as well as the New Holland, and is a pain to work on and service.
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Had 5 skid-steers so far and even the JD unit that was the same as my 785 NH was not . NH has a longer stance and better weight distrubution. Tested out 4 machines on one job site, all with tracks .. Liked the Cat machine the best for ride and smooth operation but ended up with NH 190XT.
 As much as I like the ride of the tracks think I would still go with the tires for all round machine . Then for putting in mound septic systems the tracks are great as less compaction and easier to manuver that the HD5G for spreading the sand and rock.
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I worked for a skid steer dealer for 10 years and worked on all brands. I  found the easiest to serevice was Bobcat. You open up the tail gate and can get to the battery and all your filters except for the larger machines then you had to flip up the cab which is two 1/2 nuts to get to hyd. filter. I personally wouldn't own a track machine unless it is under warrenty. They can get very expensive to fix very fast. The most common problem is drive motor failure.  When they fail they can contaminate the complete hyd system. We had to wash and flush out all the lines put in a new oil coller as well as the motor and repair or replace the hydro pump. I seen a few of the bills and they were up around 10k. The bad thing is that you know that it will be back sometime with the same problem.     Matt
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Whatever you do, do not buy a JD.  At the dairy farm I work at they have a fairly new 320 with around 1600 hours and it is worthless to say the least.  Engine compartment fills with debris constantly, even when cleaned on a daily basis.  Very easy to start fires this way.  It also overheats very easily when being worked hard, and they hydraulics seem very weak for this low of hours. The only good thing about it is it has a cab with A/C.  My other boss has an old 783 NH and it is by far my most favorite loader of all.  For a newer model I would look at NH first.  Not much of a fan of newer bobcats, and haven't heard much good about the newer models either.  Also have a Mustang 2160? at the dairy farm and it takes a beating daily and seems to hold up well.  Good luck in your searches.
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i think JD is making everything so it does catch fire!! that way they can sell more machines!! my insurance man says the insurance industry is really looking over all the brands that have the poly fuel tanks mounted where they are!
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I like the Case loaders.  Easy to run and work on.  Bobcat is OK, just not alot of room inside one for me.  THe NH machines are real nice also
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I wouldn't go with a tracked machine as they get very expensive to repair as stated. The rubber tracks wear quickly if used on hard surfaces at all, and can also get punctured and tear.
Go with a rubber tired machine and then get steel over the tire tracks if needed. The steel tracks will take a beating and can easily come off to give you rubber tires for use on hard surfaces. 
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Howdy,
I have a John Deere 675B for a long time. This machine is bullet proof.LOL Tried to get newer one in any brand but, couldn't get something this size with the lift capacity. All the machines were bigger with less lift capacity. No christmas present for me.
 
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Posi-trac is the same as ASV. Cat owned part of them for a while but not sure if they do any more. They use the Perkins diesels from Cat and Cat used their track system. The old ones were tough but hard to service. Newer ones are going to be more than 6k unless they have a million hours on them. If you buy a Case avoid the XT series as they were a lot of problems. A landscaper friend of mine had one and hated it bad enough to trade it back in on a new 1845C. He has had rubber tracks on the 1845 most of it's life and has had problems for the last 5 or so years with breaking drive chains, at least 1 or more per year.
 If I needed a tracked machine I think I would spend the extra money to get a dedicated track machine as they are built heavier for the extra abuse.
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Thanks for the input guys. I have to give it further thought.
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BTW I would't be using it on any hard surface in the forseeable future. Just cleaning calf pens, picking rock, hauling wood and other small tasks. Maybe moving snow.
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I forgot to say if your going to be useing it in the winter go with  a tired machine. A track machine doesn't have much traction on ice or snow. You will go sliding all over. I have been there and done that.  All the landscapers aound here owned tired machines with steel or rubber over tire tracks. Once winter came they brought them in and we pulled the tracks off so they could plow show.    Matt
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Originally posted by Matt (Jordan,MN) Matt (Jordan,MN) wrote:

I forgot to say if your going to be useing it in the winter go with  a tired machine. A track machine doesn't have much traction on ice or snow. You will go sliding all over. I have been there and done that.  All the landscapers aound here owned tired machines with steel or rubber over tire tracks. Once winter came they brought them in and we pulled the tracks off so they could plow show.    Matt
Really? I'll have to ask my friend and neighbor. He does excavator work, has a sand pit and does snow removal for the city of Hayfield and has both tracked and wheeled Cat skidders. He's one who told me to go with a tracked machine. I never paid attention to what he used for pushing snow.
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