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    Posted: 24 Oct 2011 at 9:00pm
Does anyone know where I can get parts to restore the rear light on my c. Lens and bulb socket.
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I would maybe check ebay and see if they got anything. Im sure someone on this site has just what your looking for. Blake
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Witch lens or do you need both ?
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The rear " brake light" i guess is what it is. It is 3" in diameter.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DREAM Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Oct 2011 at 2:57pm
It's a work light. Should have a clear lense, if you're talking about the one directly over the PTO shield. If you have a little red bullet light on the fender, it's not original(to my knowledge). I would check on E-bay or one of the vendors that advertise on this site, like Tony or some of the other fine folks.
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AJ,
 
Which lens do you need?  A factory B/C tail light has two lenses:  a clear, disc shaped lens which is aimed back and down towards where an implement would be, and a red cylinder shaped lens that shines up and back through a window in the housing.
 
I don't believe either of these lenses is a stock item anywhere, and they are both hard to come by.  I hunted a long time for the red one and ended up using pieces of an old one glued together.
 
Norm---norm's toys Norm---used to have these assemblies but I believe he's sold out of them.  He might still have some parts?
 
Those tail lights are seldom found and always nice to see on a B or C. 
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I have been looking for the whole assy with no luck. I though I hag the bent up old housing that was on my B but can't find it. It must be with the brake cover that is MIA also.
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^ what Bill said.
 
 
I'm lucky, I've got mine, its always been intact, never broken, and 100% original. Haha. So far I think I'm the only one lucky enough to have this situation. I just need to get some "innards" for it and a bulb for it so it works.
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So this light isn't a standard part?.... The 3" round lens is suppost to be clear and the little opening is suppose to be red? I was told by a guy I showed it to said that it was the other way around.
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Originally posted by AJ AJ wrote:

So this light isn't a standard part?.... The 3" round lens is suppost to be clear and the little opening is suppose to be red? I was told by a guy I showed it to said that it was the other way around.

 Yes it was a standard part but is no longer available. I believe at one time, someone was making a reproduction light that had the red round lens and the clear rectangle lens. It's too bad they didn't take the time to get it right.
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Tucker, I think you are talking about the early combine light ?

Edited by Fred in Pa - 26 Oct 2011 at 7:12am
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Originally posted by AJ AJ wrote:

So this light isn't a standard part?.... The 3" round lens is suppost to be clear and the little opening is suppose to be red? I was told by a guy I showed it to said that it was the other way around.
 
This tail light was a "standard", factory part on most B's and C's.  I think some late models went to a bullet type tail light, maybe Ken in Texas, Bill Long or one of our 'B guys' could clarify on this.  At least one fellow on the forum has an in-the-box NOS tail light assembly and has posted pictures of it here before.
 
It's counterintuative, but the round lens (part #6 below) is definitely clear and the globe/cylinder lens (part 3)  is red.  A crafty guy with a heat gun, a strip of clear plastic and some red lens repair tape could probably fabricate a substitute red lens.
 


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What was the point of having the red lens facing up? That just don't make sence to me. I would think the round lens would act as a brake/warning/safty light and the little rectagular would shine down at your draw bar area.
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The round lens should point down to be able to see the implement and what you are doing. The red side lens should point back.
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Everyone seems to adjust them to be perpendicular to the ground and that makes the white lens point back.  Notice the mounting bracket is not 90 degrees.  JC has it right, the red acutally points back (and up a little) and the white poins down (and back a little).
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Hi: I have a original white lens(still in the box no 70212763): I have a nice original lamp with white lens in with the red on the bottom,this also has the original mounting bracket and bost. I have a lamp with red lens,bottom one is broken out. May have other odds and ends. Will take offers. 785-353-2392

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Have a nos round red lense for one of these lights.
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From a C Allis Owners book.

                                   TAIL LIGHT
The tail light is mounted on the rear seat frame angle for use as a tail light and also for vision if equiped with a white lense.
 
I think the key words here are ALSO and IF. But. Can you have it both ways?
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I've seen them with both a full red lens, and a white lens. We have a nice repro of the lamp equipped with the tailight type red lens and white half moon lens.
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Originally posted by Fred in Pa Fred in Pa wrote:

Tucker, I think you are talking about the early combine light ?
Nope, see Steve's post on the reproduction light.
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Steve@B&B   I have seen them both ways too.
 Exactly the point I was trying to make by reading  the C manual.  Aparently it was a user friendly option to have a clear lens lamp for vision or a red lens lamp for a tail light way back in the day.
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Well that is good to know. I plan to restore the one I have and put it back on my allis c. Thanks everyone for the help. Aj
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Larry, you wanna add me to your Christmas gift list again? LOL
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