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645B & 940 Wheel Loaders, Scrap?
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    Posted: 14 Sep 2011 at 10:06am
Do you think these loaders are worth parting out or are just scrap weight. The 301 and 426? motors are in boxes, and I dont know any history. Also can some one tell me how would you identify these loaders besides there #, ie how many yard machines are they. I was thinking of scraping them and keeping the bucket to sell. I dont own them yet, just trying to make a decision.










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Also does anybody know what these loaders would weigh.
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I ran a 645B for a bit back in the 80's and was a good machine , a friend had it on lease purchase and ended up left it go back as he could not make the last 2 payments .Used for both loading and digging a couple basements.
 if I had known about that I would have bought it in a minute.
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Does the engine out of the big loader have an inline injection pump?
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Standard loose material bucket on 645 is 3 yard, but many had extentions welded on as the machines are capable of a much bigger lift than 3 yards of aggregate (would outlift and outreach all other loaders of its class at the time). Could snatch the jinker trailer off the the back of a logging truck, lift it completely clear of the truck stantions, reverse straight out, and have the jinker coupled up before a Caterpillar 950 could even get it off the truck. The Cat didnt have the reach to clear the truck stantions. You had to wriggle the jinker out of them.  I will look up a spec sheet and come back with machine weight. Dont know anything about 940.    Mac
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If you junk them would you see if the 426 has the tach drive parts in the block? I'm trying to find them for a D21 and those should work.
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Only the early 426 engines had the gear in the center of the cam for the tach drive and oil pump. This loader will be a late model.



Edited by Calvin Schmidt - 14 Sep 2011 at 7:52pm
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Calvin; There was a big crate with engine parts in it, plus the stuff lying on the barn floor. The pump that I have the pictures of is a rotary pump. There are two manifolds and turbos laying there, so I was only assuming the newer loader might have a 426. I offerd 200 for the Allis motor parts and that 220 cummins diesel. She thinks that someone will want the motors to go with the loaders.



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I know the 645 is newer than the 940, but what size are these machines. Is there a tractordata for construction equip.
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Originally posted by Calvin Schmidt Calvin Schmidt wrote:

Only the early 426 engines had the gear in the center of the cam for the tach drive and oil pump. This loader will be a late model.



No one has been able to help me find what I need....its the piece under where the tach cable attaches to the engine on a D21 Series 1.....any help? Its for a fellow AC lover that doesnt have or use computers.
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Benny; If I get them I will let you know. I might buy the loaders and take them to the scrap yard. My buddy has a yard that I can take them to and maybe part them out. Does anyone think I could sell stuff like the cab windows, bucket, cylinders, etc.
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If they were closer AND .. the 645 B is a nice machine and if only the engine is bad would make a great machine to have , a 3 yd machine and big enough to do serious work but small enough to move easily. For sonow work or dirt, they work good. One scrap yard that was around here had 2 of them with forks they used in yard.
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Seems like a shame to scrap either machine out if the transmission is good in each machine.  My 545 weighs about 16,000, making it worth around $2,500 as scrap, worth a lot more as a working machine or even as a parts machine.
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John; I have no where to do any repairs to them, and dont know if the trans is good or not. If I knew a little more history on them then I might sell them whole. I am more interested in the engines than anything. Would like to put the 301 in a D17 and the 426 in a pulling truck.
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I was down tonight to pick up one of the McCormick Deering tractors that i bought, and the women still wont give me an answer on the 301 or the 426 engines out of the loaders.
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