Need info... track loaders

AC 7G would meet the 20,000 pnd. criteria but would not make the 100 horse criteria.  Nor would a cat 955 meet the 100 horsepower criteria.  If 100 horse is your criteria you had better look at a 977 or bigger Cat with turbo.  

We have a Fiat-Allis FL10c that is about 130 Hp, 30,000 lbs. It has been a good machine.

Edited by Reed(UT) - 22 Aug 2011 at 5:59pm

Im looking at using it to clean up fence rows and help keep control on tree limb in the field. Not gonna forget to mention clean out cattle lots. How big is a FD7 and what motors do they have? I aint gonna lie, Im clueless in this area. What the price ranges do any of the loaders run? Im seeing them from $7,000 for something like a FL to $17,000 for a 12GB, is that about right?

Mactractor: Thanks for keeping us on our toes, I was thinking about the HP on the 6000 engine.  The reference books show the 7G at 107 HP and max horsepower of the 7000 direct injection at 150 HP.  

You guys are right, a 7G size loader is probably not needed there, but an Allis engined machine sure does sound a hell of a lot sweeter than any Fiat engined one. Its not always about economics.

I have been on here and in conversations with guys here as to PMs' as to machines I have found or looked at, listen well to them they will not steer you wrong.

I backed off owning my own for now, too many needed more work $ to get useable than to just have a contractor come out and push the stuff I needed down so I opted for the latter until I can get a shop and some cash ahead to start a project machine.

Rails(track chains) are high dollar as are rollers or getting them re-manufactured, then you have the downtime and the work on time plus tooling to get it where you need it to what you need it to do.  If you buy one ready to work with all the parts in decent order you will pay a sharp price for it, beware the 'bargains' as they tend to not be in the long run.

Very good point Coke. An HD6 Dozer with a straight blade on it would make short work of those trees if ya knew what you were doin on it.

An hd11 loader cat would be all you would need, much larger than the hd 5 my dad had that we used for EVERYTHING on the farm. Think about weight if you want to move the machine from place to place. You need a pretty good trailer for an 11 to be legal. I dont know a thing about 977 cat, but an hd11 is  a fairly large unit for tree lines and feedlots. They can be bought fairly cheaply and are very sturdy machines, Just my 2 cents, Trev.

I dismantled 2 hd11 loaders for parts these was HD11G with 8 rollers long track and dismantled 5 HD11 dozers

i have been looking for a long time for a hd7g and have found one yet. dad had one of each  a standard and a b and he liked his 6g better than either 7g .

So i should go with a smaller machine? I know hauling is one thing, but I cant be fooling around having to dig out trees. One push and it should be over and ready to lift out, thats why i was asking about the size of a 7G. The machine I need will have to keep up with a 16B dozer, and I dont really know what model will. 5, 6 or 7G or will I have to go bigger?

I'm with Coke on this, I have used a 450JD loader to push a 22" across black locust out, took a little digging along the edges of the root mass but the tree went over and with a 13,000# machine.  Took less time than I saw a gent on a D6C Cat trying to push a smaller one straight on.

The loader I have on my 180 is no hilift but can be used to move some serious material if handled correctly.

Dig on 3 sides into the majority of the feeding root mass, then push TO the fourth direction.  It is not so much as 4 sides but looking down on a tree trunk to the stump picture a "C", cut around the trunk in that horseshoe and as the tree gets looser then push it to the uncut area like a hinge, pick that spot accordingly for the tree to fall to.  Trackhoes and backhoes do well sometimes even better for this; a tree with a serious taproot will fight back even as this method works well, cottonwood, elm, sycamore and similar set a pretty vicious tap root beyond the feeders.

A lot of time only a couple feet, the root ball has a lot of roots near the surface to draw water from. With the back-hoe I might dig down 3 ft or so all the way around, then just fill area back in, its just a matter of breaking up the root structure.

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