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    Posted: 09 May 2011 at 5:02pm
I'm building a 262 to pull I am looking for ideas on a higher compression piston does any one have an idea of what could be used with the stock sleeves. I have diesel pistons but I think they are to tall.
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I understand so far that LP pistons will do.
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I have been unable to find LP pistons, any sugestions where I could find some.
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Use a standard piston with a longer rod, or use the diesel piston with a shorter rod. Make any compression ratio you want.
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You can machine .200" or .250" off of the tops of diesel pistons and use a thick diesel head gasket....been there dun that many years ago.....don't remember the exact depth of material but it's between .200 and .250.
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I would guess you are going NA ? If turbo the diesel pistons won't take it.   MACK
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I will be running na, I will be running it in the 4500lbs modified stock antique class, the tractor is actually a D17 diesel with a gas 262 out of a CII combine, I do have the pistons out of the diesel engine, so I will try shaving those pistons, I really didnt want to shave the block, how thick of a head gasket are you talking about, or do you just mean to use the diesel gasket.
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Diesel gasket is much thicker than a gas gasket.
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Gas gasket is .035 diesels .065     MACK
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haha u got the same idea as me man!!!! the hp of a D19 with the weight of a D17!!! this winter i will be building a D17 Diesel pulling tractor with a CII engine, but turned up and with a One-Ninety XT turbo!! POST PHOTOS MAN!!!!!!!      Cordel
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I've been pullin this tractor for a couple of years with the diesel, but with blowing head gaskets and lack of power was never competative.  In the classes in ky we were never able to run a turbo. So i decided to build this engine hoping to hang with the Olivers with the bigger 6cyl that dominate the light classes.  Funny thing is i was told i could never get this tractor less than 5000lbs, she ways in just under 4500lbs now with very little stripped off of it, but i plan to weigh in at 4000lbs when i am finished.  If you need any parts for the 262D shot me a message i still have many parts off the old motor, including a good block. Will post pictures when tractor is done.
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Wrbewley,there is a combination using the cockshutt version of the same motor that is sleeveless and had a big bore but short stroke. You just need to put the 262 crank in it cause it's longer stroked. I don't remember if it was 280 or 290 something cube. I'd like to see one pull done up that way.
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Originally posted by wrbewley wrbewley wrote:

I've been pullin this tractor for a couple of years with the diesel, but with blowing head gaskets and lack of power was never competative.  In the classes in ky we were never able to run a turbo. So i decided to build this engine hoping to hang with the Olivers with the bigger 6cyl that dominate the light classes.  Funny thing is i was told i could never get this tractor less than 5000lbs, she ways in just under 4500lbs now with very little stripped off of it, but i plan to weigh in at 4000lbs when i am finished.  If you need any parts for the 262D shot me a message i still have many parts off the old motor, including a good block. Will post pictures when tractor is done.
What kind of rule won't let you run a turbo on a tractor that came from the factory with a turbo? Nonsense!!
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The tractor is actually a d17 which had the same motor as the 19 but it was not turbo, so according to our rules no turbo allowed on the 17.
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Blown head gaskets is no problem. Have been running 70 Lb boost on a 262 and have never blown a head gasket.  MACK
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I thank the six cracks in the head had a lot to do with it, I was blowing gaskets about every two hooks.
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I would be interested in the block if it was closer
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