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G-Money 
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Posted: 08 Jun 2011 at 4:12pm |
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I'm putting new distributor, wires, plugs, etc,... and I know the firing order is 1-3-4-2, but what is the number one piston and so fourth on the engine. Sorry to be so dumb on a small G engine.....but thanks for the help. I have 3 manuals but none actually tell you what the number one piston is....
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DonDittmar
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Posted: 08 Jun 2011 at 4:47pm |
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#1 should be opposite the clutch. #4 would be directly next to the flywheel, with number 3 next, then #2, the#1 nest to the radiator
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Posted: 08 Jun 2011 at 4:59pm |
#1 is at the front of the engine(always ?) ,but since the engine is mounted 'backawards', it's the one nearest the rad/fan.
You're right 3 books here too, NO picture of who's first !!
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Dick L
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Posted: 08 Jun 2011 at 6:33pm |
Number one is at the crankshaft pulley. That would be to the rear of the tractor on a G.
To the right in the picture.
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Posted: 08 Jun 2011 at 6:35pm |
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Don and Jay are only partway right which could mess you up. The engine is in backwards. The number 1 cylinder is at the back of the tractor. The radiator and fan are above the clutch and flywheel which is on the rear of the engine block next to number 4 cylinder. Now that should be clear as mud. Charlie
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Posted: 08 Jun 2011 at 6:48pm |
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G-Money
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Posted: 08 Jun 2011 at 7:30pm |
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Joe and Dick, thanks for showing this issue in the picture form....pictures are always good for us Gump types.....even then, some of the explanations above still seemed confusing......now to set the wires on the distrib.......
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Posted: 08 Jun 2011 at 9:56pm |
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There are some engines that # 1 is at the flywheel end of engine ,remeber the company that bought out AC in 1985
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Posted: 09 Jun 2011 at 4:36am |
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YES FRED>>>>>>>> and they built GREEN tractors as well !!!!
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John (C-IL)
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Posted: 09 Jun 2011 at 7:51am |
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And if you think about it for a while it doesn't matter which cylinder you call number one, the end result is the same. 1-2-4-3 from the radiator back becomes 4-3-1-2 from the clutch forward. So if you look at those numbers you can see that the firing order doesn't change. The only thing that is important is that when it is time for a given cylinder to fire the rotor is supplying spark to THAT cylinder.
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Posted: 09 Jun 2011 at 8:37am |
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True but it can become very confusing when you do not have the principals rock solid in your head. A person need not know the firing order in advance if they know how an engine operates. One only has to check for the compression strokes and watch the valves close and mark it down. You could then call any one of the plugs number one but would not have a standard reference point to discuss problems with others.
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Posted: 09 Jun 2011 at 10:01am |
 Dick L wrote:
True but it can become very confusing when you do not have the principals rock solid in your head. A person need not know the firing order in advance if they know how an engine operates. One only has to check for the compression strokes and watch the valves close and mark it down. You could then call any one of the plugs number one but would not have a standard reference point to discuss problems with others. |
My point exactly Dick, I could have worded it better.
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Posted: 02 Oct 2012 at 12:21pm |
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what position is number 1 on the distributer?
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Posted: 02 Oct 2012 at 6:41pm |
on mine it is here, the tech manual steps are attached also  
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Posted: 02 Oct 2012 at 7:53pm |
allis g wrote:
what position is number 1 on the distributer? |
Which ever one the rotor is pointing to when number 1 is at TDC of the compression stroke. It can be any of the 4 holes, depending on how the distributor was installed.
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Posted: 03 Oct 2012 at 7:54am |
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My Bad......I forgot the engine is backwards in the G. Sorry for the confusion.....
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Posted: 07 Sep 2017 at 2:34pm |
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My cows pulled the wires off the distributor of my G. Can some one pls show me how to put them back in the right order on the distributor cap.
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Posted: 07 Sep 2017 at 6:24pm |
Turn the engine over until #1 piston is at the top of it's compression stroke. Then the post that rotor is pointing to is #1.
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Posted: 08 Sep 2017 at 1:04pm |
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Dusty. Thank you. Got it running again
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