This site is not affiliated with AGCO Inc., Duluth GA., Allis-Chalmers Co., Milwaukee, WI., or any surviving or related corporate entity. All trademarks remain the property of their respective owners. All information presented herein should be considered the result of an un-moderated public forum with no responsibility for its accuracy or usability assumed by the users and sponsors of this site or any corporate entity.
The Forum Parts and Services Unofficial Allis Store Tractor Shows Serial Numbers History
Forum Home Forum Home > Allis Chalmers > Farm Equipment
  New Posts New Posts
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login


Stump Puller-Need Ideas

 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
Message
Osage_Orange View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 11 Sep 2009
Location: SW MO
Points: 1593
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Osage_Orange Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Stump Puller-Need Ideas
    Posted: 16 Jan 2011 at 10:37pm
I want to pull some 4-6 inch diameter stumps that stick up about about 1-2 inches above the ground.  Thinking something similar to a super size fish hook or logging choker would work.  Has anyone made such a thing?  If so, some pics would be helpful.
Why is there never time to do it right the first time, but always time to go back and fix it?
Back to Top
Sponsored Links


Back to Top
Coke-in-MN View Drop Down
Orange Level Access
Orange Level Access
Avatar

Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Afton MN
Points: 41614
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Coke-in-MN Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Jan 2011 at 11:53pm
First thing is to do the guy in who cut them that low, then while digging to hide the body, cut the roots around all sides od stump. Then chain low and try to roll the stump from hole. At that height a backhoe works best, next is a loader or dozer, loader can dig on 3 sides and push out while lifting to 4 th side , Dozer with 6 way same as with loader.
 Cut the dang things at 3 to 4 ft high to get leverage and they come out easily.

Edited by Coke-in-MN - 16 Jan 2011 at 11:53pm
Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something.
"Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful."
Back to Top
SHAMELESS View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 13 Sep 2009
Location: EAST NE
Points: 29486
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SHAMELESS Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jan 2011 at 2:21am
if cutting out the trees, like coke says, leverage, i have done 100's of trees with a rear blade on my 7010, 6-7 inch trees, i bump up against them, if the tree wobbles just a little, them raise blade all the way up, push with the tractors, that and with the weight of the tree ussually will pop a few roots out on the tractor side, may have to rock it a few times, as this will loosen up some of the dirt/roots, then drive ahead, lower your blade under the roots that popped up, and as you push raise at the same time, that ussually will pull the whole tree and roots up and out. can cut the trees up after that. or pile them. i have a back hoe now that works good for small and larger trees by digging around them and them push/pulling them out. your tractor should be heavy nuff, like a 190 of larger, and should have a cab!
Back to Top
Brad MI View Drop Down
Silver Level
Silver Level


Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Arcadia MI
Points: 339
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brad MI Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jan 2011 at 2:43am
I built a stump puller for 10-15ft jackpine many years ago. It worked great, but I'm glad I have the D4 w/6 way blade now. This is what I came up with. After a few revisions and a little practice I was able to clear an 8 acre parcel of scrub pine with nothing but a small tractor, 30 horse Ford at the time, with 3pt. Just back into the stump 6 or 8 inches below the ground and lift in one motion.
Back to Top
Larry(OH) View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 11 Sep 2009
Location: Shreve Ohio
Points: 1577
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Larry(OH) Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jan 2011 at 6:15am
there was a guy that posted here all the time from I think Kansas, and he used a chain and an old  rim and a B.  He hookd low on the stump, ran the chain up over rim and to tractor.  He would pull ahead and the chain would roll up as the wheel rolled.  I cannot say I've seen a post of his in a long time.  I think his name was Steve...any help from anyone?
'40 WC puller,'50 WD puller,'50 M puller '65 770 Ollie

*ALLIS EXPRESS contact*

I can explain it to you, BUT I cannot understand it for you!!
Back to Top
TexasAllis View Drop Down
Silver Level
Silver Level
Avatar

Joined: 14 Sep 2009
Location: Texas
Points: 396
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TexasAllis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jan 2011 at 7:01am
Originally posted by Larry(OH) Larry(OH) wrote:

there was a guy that posted here all the time from I think Kansas, and he used a chain and an old  rim and a B.  He hookd low on the stump, ran the chain up over rim and to tractor.  He would pull ahead and the chain would roll up as the wheel rolled.  I cannot say I've seen a post of his in a long time.  I think his name was Steve...any help from anyone?
 
My dad and I used to use this trick to pull up wooden fence posts.  It works real well.  The bigger around the rim is the better and cable works better than chain.
Back to Top
Adam Stratton View Drop Down
Orange Level Access
Orange Level Access


Joined: 11 Sep 2009
Location: SW MO
Points: 1363
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Adam Stratton Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jan 2011 at 7:08am
My dad and grandpa built one a lot like Brad's that we always used to pull wooden posts.  It worked real well most of the time.  Sounds like you have a real job ahead of you anything you do.  Good luck!
Back to Top
R.W View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level


Joined: 31 Dec 2010
Location: Swanton, OH
Points: 2975
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote R.W Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jan 2011 at 7:26am

My dad had one like brads, it was for our farmall smta and it had rods that would go unger the stunp when you backed up. Then you would raise the 3 point and back up and the stump was out! The contraption is gone now so i cant post any pictures.

In Search Of: 1958 Allis Chalmers D17 Diesel serial #9643D
Back to Top
TexasAllis View Drop Down
Silver Level
Silver Level
Avatar

Joined: 14 Sep 2009
Location: Texas
Points: 396
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TexasAllis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jan 2011 at 7:37am
While we are on the subject anyone built a tractor stump puller that works well on mesquites?
Back to Top
Bob-Maine View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 11 Sep 2009
Location: Central Maine
Points: 922
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bob-Maine Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jan 2011 at 7:44am
Brad and others have the right idea. You need something which causes the stump to be pulled vertically, or near vertically. A wheel rim might not stand up to much of a pull. Some kind of a frame, either timber or steel, set up close to the stump with the chain/cable over the frame will cause the stump to be pulled upward. Bob@allisdowneast
Back to Top
Osage_Orange View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 11 Sep 2009
Location: SW MO
Points: 1593
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Osage_Orange Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jan 2011 at 8:23am
1) vertical pulling,
2) leverage,
3) and "do the guy that left those stumps"
 
I'll take a look at my scrap pile and see what there is to work with. Most likely end up building something.
 
Thanks for the comments & pic................James
Why is there never time to do it right the first time, but always time to go back and fix it?
Back to Top
Brian G. NY View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: 12194
Points: 2242
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian G.  NY Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jan 2011 at 10:51am
I can remember my Dad telling me about a stump puller a local farmer had years ago; before my time.
It was basically a wheel about 5' or 6' in diam. with a long pole attached to it.
It was moved up to the base of the stump and a chain was affixed to both the puller and the stump with the pole vertical. Horses were then hooked to the pole using a long heavy rope or cable.
The result was action similar to a curved claw hammer pulling a nail.
I Googled but could not find anything like it.
I don't know if it was homemade or commercially built.
I have thought that a similar device could be built using two old tractor steel wheels and a piece of I-beam. I would build it so the wheels would also provide the means to move it about. Here is a horse powered stump puller I found while "Googling".
Back to Top
JohnThomas View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 14 Sep 2009
Location: Traverse City
Points: 332
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JohnThomas Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jan 2011 at 11:24am
I've pulled many a stump with a chain and a four foot tall forked limb of abt 3 to 4 inches dia with the WD. If water hose is available ramming the flowing hose into the ground around the stump sure softens them up.
Just NEVER...NEVER use one of those yellow tow belts!
I watched a kid pulling out a log for firewood and the thing came off the log and the hook hit the tailgate of the pickup so hard it dented right thru both panels.
Another 5 inches higher and it would have went into the back window.

Life is short...Make haste to be kind
Back to Top
JW in MO View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 16 Feb 2010
Location: South KC Area
Points: 2619
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JW in MO Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jan 2011 at 12:05pm

Osage;  I can't help myself, reading about your predictiment reminded me of an email I got a couple of years ago and impressed me so I kept it.

As I stood back looking, the hard work was done. The tree came down without any problems and had been cleaned up. The only thing left of the mighty tree was the large, deep rooted trunk the size of a Volkswagen. I had dug around and chopped all the roots I could see. Now, with a chain the size you would find attached to the anchor of an aircraft carrier it was time to hook up the tractor. I hit the switch and the old tractor roared to life.
 
With the chain fastened to the draw bar I said a small prayer, opened the throttle, and let loose the clutch. The tractor leaped forward, tires spinning up dirt like a Kansas dust storm. The front end began to rise and dark smoke poured from the stack. The manifold started to turn white with heat as a bright fire replaced the dark smoke shooting upward towards the blue sky. The tractor kept digging and inching forward and seemed to find added power as it knew it was machine or nature. Do or die. All of a sudden the mighty Green machine found solid footing, the bar tires grabbed and stood the nose straight into the air. The mighty trunk broke from its roots with a crack of dynamite and gave up the place where it had rested for 100 years. The front of the tractor came down and bounced several times as if it were dancing in triumph to victory. On lookers standing by were amazed. They couldn't believe the old John Deere had that much left in it. They applauded and cheered the old machine like he was an old soldier winning one last battle.
 
Ok, ok. So it wasn't a mighty oak, but it was the biggest dang rose bush you ever saw. And with the log chain, my 1984 12HP John Deere 212 hydrostatic mower pulled that mother out! I was proud and did a few laps around the yard dragging the trunk. Even left black marks on the driveway. Bar tires don't get much traction on concrete! Well, gotta go. Need to get the black marks cleaned off the driveway before the wife gets home.
Later




 

Maximum use of available resources!
Back to Top
mlpankey View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level


Joined: 13 Sep 2009
Location: Vols country
Points: 4580
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mlpankey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jan 2011 at 12:35pm
its called a track driven front end loader or track hoe either one makes quick easy work of it.
Back to Top
DonDittmar View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 15 Sep 2009
Location: MIllersburg, MI
Points: 2484
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DonDittmar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jan 2011 at 12:43pm
Originally posted by mlpankey mlpankey wrote:

its called a track driven front end loader or track hoe either one makes quick easy work of it.
Excavator with a "thumb"on it does also. Although not everyone can afford a track-hoe or excavator. 
Experience is a fancy name for past mistakes. "Great moments are born from great opportunity"

1968 D15D,1962 D19D
Also 1965 Cub Loboy and 1958 JD 720 Diesel Pony Start
Back to Top
Breeze View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 11 Sep 2009
Location: Ga
Points: 8931
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Breeze Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jan 2011 at 12:49pm
I think Steve was the guy that was pulling up stumps with the rim. It looked like it worked good for him.
Back to Top
Dick L View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Edon Ohio
Points: 5087
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dick L Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jan 2011 at 2:37pm
I still like a 350 or 450 dozer for that kinda work.
 
 
Back to Top
mlpankey View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level


Joined: 13 Sep 2009
Location: Vols country
Points: 4580
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mlpankey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jan 2011 at 3:33pm
Originally posted by Dick L Dick L wrote:

I still like a 350 or 450 dozer for that kinda work.
 
 
yeap but it helps for the stump to be a little taller than 2 inches
Back to Top
john(MI) View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: SE MI
Points: 9262
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote john(MI) Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jan 2011 at 7:50am
That small, I just dig around as best I can and then chain saw off what I can, to get it below grade.  Usually works fine!
D14, D17, 5020, 612H, CASE 446
Back to Top
LoggerLee View Drop Down
Silver Level
Silver Level


Joined: 14 Nov 2010
Location: Lewiston ID
Points: 118
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote LoggerLee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jan 2011 at 12:06pm
pull it with your pickup,just dig around it a little and take a axe after the roots you can get to.
Back to Top
TexasAllis View Drop Down
Silver Level
Silver Level
Avatar

Joined: 14 Sep 2009
Location: Texas
Points: 396
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TexasAllis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jan 2011 at 12:16pm
Originally posted by LoggerLee LoggerLee wrote:

pull it with your pickup,just dig around it a little and take a axe after the roots you can get to.
 
On my place by the time you hit a root on a mequite tree you just about dug yourself to China.


Edited by TexasAllis - 18 Jan 2011 at 12:16pm
Back to Top
LoggerLee View Drop Down
Silver Level
Silver Level


Joined: 14 Nov 2010
Location: Lewiston ID
Points: 118
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote LoggerLee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jan 2011 at 2:17pm
I guess I should have been more specific,I tried to pull a little hawthorn bush with a crawler once,it was about 5" though the middle,made a 3/8" chain into a pointer,then broke the chain.

Most little maples and the like are not too tough,but some other trees are pretty bitchin'
Back to Top
mdm1 View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Onalaska, WI
Points: 2639
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mdm1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jan 2011 at 2:38pm
I learned real fast not to surface cut any trees. Yes I will be digging and sawing with a sazall. Mine now have 2-3 ft left. You should try to pull out ironwood sometime.
Everything is impossible until someone does it! WD45-trip loader 1947 c w/woods belly mower, 1939 B, #3 sickle mower 1944 B, 2 1948 G's. Misc other equipment that my wife calls JUNK!
Back to Top
Dave A View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 11 Sep 2009
Location: Almond Wisconsi
Points: 855
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dave A Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jan 2011 at 6:38pm
Just tell your naighbor you think his backhoe is wimpy. Then bet him 5 buck he couldn't even pull that stump
Play the game for more than you can afford to lose... only then will you learn the game.
Winston Churchill
Back to Top
R.W View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level


Joined: 31 Dec 2010
Location: Swanton, OH
Points: 2975
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote R.W Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jan 2011 at 6:45pm
I like dave a's idea i bet it will work too lol!
In Search Of: 1958 Allis Chalmers D17 Diesel serial #9643D
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 11.10
Copyright ©2001-2017 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.067 seconds.


Help Support the
Unofficial Allis Forum