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ToddnwIl
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Topic: 7060 pd vs 8050 psPosted: 10 Oct 2026 at 7:06pm |
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Our 7060 is an early power director model. It's our hay making, poo hauling tractor... bin in the family since new. Would we be happy with an 8050 power shift or do I need to look for an 8070 and do the pto conversion. As duel pto is a must!
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darrel in ND
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Posted: 11 Oct 2026 at 6:27am |
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I've got a 7060 powershift, and had an 8050 powershift (until it burned up), and I always thought that they were pretty comparable
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injpumpEd
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Posted: 11 Oct 2026 at 9:48am |
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Todd, I doubt either one of those jobs is working the 7060 to it's full capacity, I'm sure an 8050 would handle them well too. You may not like the laziness of the M100 governor though, but a PS will let you keep it wound up.
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210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!
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ToddnwIl
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Posted: 11 Oct 2026 at 10:41am |
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We bale with a vermeer 605m 5x6 baler. We put new belts in it this summer and it will make the 7060 work. Know keep in mind we are talking north of 16000 hours on the ole gal... so im sure she's tired...
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977.3Ford
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Posted: 11 Oct 2026 at 11:01am |
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Friend of mine has a 7060 PS and i have a 8050 PS, never noticed much of a difference between them power wise. Seems to me like the 7060 has a little less engine noise, a little more responsive, and might smoke a little more but nothing crazy noticeable. Never ran a power director but love the powershifts. We use our tractors for everything, tillage/planting/hay/manure and the powershifts work great.
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Jimmy
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AC7060IL
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Posted: 11 Oct 2026 at 11:24am |
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An early maroon belly 7060 would have the very reliable good/simple floor gear shift. So no cable issues for it.
Your 16,000 hrs 670I, PD, dual pto, etc combo speaks for itself. Someday I may own an 8000 series? Think, I’d love their comfortable roomy cabs. Or, maybe just install an 8000 cab onto my 7060 cause I love its throttle snappiness & very good torque. |
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victoryallis
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Posted: 17 hours 1 minutes ago at 7:17pm |
Now deceased neighbor charged the front plate and used a 7030 or 7050 pump on his 8050.
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8030, 7060, six 6080’s grandpa’s D17, 8760, 8100, and 8970 Deere.
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victoryallis
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Posted: 16 hours 60 minutes ago at 7:18pm |
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Going to a Powershift is a huge step in the right direction.
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8030, 7060, six 6080’s grandpa’s D17, 8760, 8100, and 8970 Deere.
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injpumpEd
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Posted: 3 hours 47 minutes ago at 8:31am |
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I also built a DM pump for a customer from this page who has several 7060's and one 8070, and he didn't like the laziness of the M100 governor, so he swapped all the parts over to put the DM Roosa I built for him on it. Several guys swap an A pump to them, but I haven't had the time to be involved with those.
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Acguywill
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Posted: 1 hour 38 minutes ago at 10:40am |
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The biggest drawback to the powershift is there is too big a jump between gears for some applications. Under heavy load like a forage harvester or plowing it can be a bit limiting. I always wondered why they didn't mate the 2 speed from the power director to the powershift to split each gear. That would have made a huge improvement in performance and probably reduced issues due to lugging the engine. Probably too expensive at the time.
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DrAllis
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Posted: 55 minutes ago at 11:23am |
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Placing a "Power Director" 20% speed changer ahead of the PST couldn't be done for one thing. If you've ever seen cut-away pics of each transmission, you'd see why. A 20% split would have just seen to it there would have been multiple gear choices that in the end just gave you two gears that were the same speed. Cost would have been too much. Their only option (and they were working on it) was a 3-speed range transmission, with the "medium" range placing 5th gear at the 6.0 to 6.2 MPH speed and everything else just fell in where it may. Now, we are talking 1985 was the end. The Case-IH Magnum tractor came out in 1987 with the first "counter-shaft" 16 speed PST. Deere had already had their 15-speed planetary PST since 1983. The A-C design just didn't/couldn't ever become a "full" PST non-stop shifting from top to bottom.
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DrAllis
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Posted: 25 minutes ago at 11:53am |
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A 7010-20-40 PST with 18.4 rubber gave you PST low range speeds of 1.8-2.5-3.5-4.4-5.4-6.8 mph. For almost all selections the change is approx 18%. A-C did provide a "fast" low range in the last of the 8000 series. The increase was approx 11%. This then yielded speeds of 2.0-2.8-3.9-4.9-6.0-7.6 MPH with the same rubber. So, as you can see, they lose a low gear of under 2 MPH, which in some parts of the country was a big deal. But for midwest farming applications, they gained that desired 6.0 mph tillage gear. I believe their next planned transmission was to be (as I said) a three-speed range transmission that would have had both of these range selections and left high range the same. It would have been pretty nice, but already outdated to the competitions full power shift designs.
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