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D19allisowner 
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Posted: 27 Feb 2026 at 7:59pm |
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DMiller
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Posted: 28 Feb 2026 at 12:07pm |
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Stated this for years. TOO much Demanded of too small an engine. Enganears do not care.
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Tbone95
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Posted: 28 Feb 2026 at 12:11pm |
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Don’t blame the engineers. They do a helluva job making the stuff the government and management and bean counters tell them to make work as good as it does.
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tadams(OH)
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Posted: 28 Feb 2026 at 2:17pm |
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The only worry I have with new cars is all the computer stuff, so you get the longest warranty
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 28 Feb 2026 at 3:02pm |
too bad they can't design a RELIABLE engine ! Get RID of the VVT and other hitech nonsense...make a GOOD engine.. ..then get rid of the 2 extra doors on a pickup it's now 2-3 ' shorter ! ), trash the 4WD, toss out the automatic tranny, don't install 4-5 computers that control 'stuff' NOT needed, get rid of heated AND A/C seats,6 or 7 airbags........ probably another 200-500#s of stuff NOT needed which more than makes up for the MPG. Hmm..if you need a station wagon to haul the kids around, buy a station wagon AKA a van.
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 28 Feb 2026 at 3:08pm |
FYI my '97 F150 has done me just fine and I can toss $1,000 into it every year from now until the cows come home and I'm much further ahead than buying a new POS 'pickup'. Had I known 20 years ago I was keeping it, I'd have oil sprayed it every year or two. OK, I bought a southern box and drivers door for it,2 years ago, hopefully installed this summer. Yup $2K for the pair...so I'm 'on budget'. NO fancy computers, NO 4WD, 2 doors and it'll haul 7000# of ponypoop as required. to each,their own, but while I've got 5 decades design/build computers...I hate to see the repair cost to 'fix' new rides.
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Posted: 28 Feb 2026 at 3:57pm |
 jaybmiller wrote:
too bad they can't design a RELIABLE engine ! Get RID of the VVT and other hitech nonsense...make a GOOD engine.. ..then get rid of the 2 extra doors on a pickup it's now 2-3 ' shorter ! ), trash the 4WD, toss out the automatic tranny, don't install 4-5 computers that control 'stuff' NOT needed, get rid of heated AND A/C seats,6 or 7 airbags........ probably another 200-500#s of stuff NOT needed which more than makes up for the MPG. Hmm..if you need a station wagon to haul the kids around, buy a station wagon AKA a van. |
Pretty much anyone who has tried this in the past 30 years has not stuck with it. Why? No money in it. Bean counters and managers.
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DMiller
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Posted: 28 Feb 2026 at 4:06pm |
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Far too few can even drive a stick nowadays, no one can deal without AC for even a 10 minute drive in general world, all those bells and whistles are what sell did you not know that Jay, ask any used or new car sales person.
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Posted: 28 Feb 2026 at 4:48pm |
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Wife has a year 2025 Chevy trailblazer. I like it for driving around. I do have some concern about how long the little 1.3 liter engine will last. We kept her Pontiac 20 years, had to put head gaskets in the V6 at 140,000 miles. I will say that the trailblazer doesn't get exceptionally good mileage unless you are on a long highway trip with a tailwind. Just think the 3.8 liter was a good motor although it may have had its own problems. But they got good gas mileage in a midsize car. Went with a friend to an auction one time 4 hours away so had his wife car. Exceeding the speed limit all the way there and didn't have to stop for gas till we got there. I thought that was pretty good. For what it took to fill it when we got gas. I wonder what it would be like to take that new trailblazer like my wife's and have that 3.8 GM in it hell if you wanted you could even turbo it like a Grand National. That would make one nice ride.
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 28 Feb 2026 at 8:17pm |
those 'bells and whistles' are what the sheeple are told they have to have,so they buy them. Most do not require a $100,000 pickup truck to 'get around' but that's what they buy, cause the dealer's only stock them and get high profit when they sell them.
no different than sheeple buying the 'new' iphones year after years after year.....
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 28 Feb 2026 at 9:49pm |
GOVT has fked up all the CAFE Standards with RULES and REGS.... Customers demand the BELLS and WHISTLES..... They only BUILD what people WANT...
Nobody wants a 1980 2 door , 2 wheel drive, manual windows and locks.... thats 2% of the population.... you want that you have to buy a 45 year old truck and rebuild it...
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Posted: 28 Feb 2026 at 10:41pm |
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Funny thing the big 3 are all building new big cube diesel motors with more HP and torque.
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 01 Mar 2026 at 5:53am |
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If it wasn't for the new tarriffs ,exchange on the dollars,taxes of course and other 'paperwork', I would be buying older pickups out of the USA. RUST FREE, minimal garbage on them.
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PaulB
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Posted: 01 Mar 2026 at 8:36am |
I don't own anything newer than a 1989. And if I was unable to care for my vehicles myself I'd just lease whatever crap was on offer at the time and all the maintenance would not be my problem. That is all most everyone that gets a new vehicle is doing anyway except they are bearing the high costs of ownership and repairs of things that are designed to cause problems. Getting the gullible public to bear the costs of testing all of the gadgets that the PR department has convinced that everyone "NEEDS" is a higher profit business model than building anything that is built to do a job and last longer than the payment book. Find me a 1950 something Dodge light truck that is from the southwest that hasn't been exposed to road salt and I'd buy it in a heartbeat to rebuild rather than anything new.
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Posted: 7 hours 48 minutes ago at 9:20pm |
PaulB wrote:
I don't own anything newer than a 1989.
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I can't say that as I have two 1991s; both are Dodge/Cummins; one is a 2nd Generation 1991 SRW and the other is a 1st Generation 1991 DRW.
Sitting beside them is a 1990 4x4 SRW Dodge/Cummins.
My daily driver "personal truck" is a 1985 F350 Ranger XLT that I have owned since 1987, 6BT Cummins power and better now than when it rolled off the truck in 1985; it would take several pages to list all the improvements and goodies on that truck; I get out on a hauling trip in any other truck and I really begin to miss all my "bells and whistles" and the A/C in that truck will freeze your binoculars off --- if you live in heinously humid Kentucky, you better have A/C or else you will end up fighting pneumonia at least twice a year from sucking in all that water-laden air.
I also have a 1972 Ford F250 "Hi-Boy" 4x4 with divorced transfer case and 390 - soon to be Cummins powered.
I still have and often drive the 1978 K20 Chevrolet that I bought brand-new for fifty-nine one-hunnert-dollar bills; it gets a Cummins after I get done with the Hi-Boy.
I don't know what some of you have against 4x4; a straight 4x4 front axle will outlast a 2wd front-end ten to one and has about 10% of the moving parts to give trouble.
A leaf-sprung 4x4 front suspension is a heck-of-a-lot easier and cheaper to work on and actually seldom ever needs anything anyway.
Only one of these trucks is automatic, the 2nd Generation 1991; if it didn't have the Cummins, I would not have bought it; I can always change the transmission --- I hate an automatic.
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