180D starter gave it up

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   Several years back the Starter on my 180 decided time to quit so bought a AGCo replacement thru a known supplier, that Lucas style lasted a couple of years but as my old engine is tired and cranks pretty long to start it gave up just at two years and out of warranty.  So fleabay had a New Lucas style really cheap and I bit, well it gave it up after I had finished blading off driveway cleaned the snow off blade and went to restart to put back in shop.  Managed to get it cranking put back inside and pulled starter.  Took it to an old friend that rebuilt starters long ago does no longer and we tested it.  First comment as we took it apart: “Chinese” or Some Asian junk.  Side windings were iffy and likely the lacquering on those was failing or improperly applied, then he growled the armature, sure enough it was ‘Soft Shorted’.   “Junk”.  Having had two of these fail opted to order a Agparts Denso, gear reduction unit.  Know is Korean, should be here today, hope to have back running by next round of Pretty.

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DMiller Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 35256	Post Options Post Reply Quote DMiller Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: 180D starter gave it up Posted: 30 Jan 2026 at 3:33am
	Several years back the Starter on my 180 decided time to quit so bought a AGCo replacement thru a known supplier, that Lucas style lasted a couple of years but as my old engine is tired and cranks pretty long to start it gave up just at two years and out of warranty. So fleabay had a New Lucas style really cheap and I bit, well it gave it up after I had finished blading off driveway cleaned the snow off blade and went to restart to put back in shop. Managed to get it cranking put back inside and pulled starter. Took it to an old friend that rebuilt starters long ago does no longer and we tested it. First comment as we took it apart: “Chinese” or Some Asian junk. Side windings were iffy and likely the lacquering on those was failing or improperly applied, then he growled the armature, sure enough it was ‘Soft Shorted’. “Junk”. Having had two of these fail opted to order a Agparts Denso, gear reduction unit. Know is Korean, should be here today, hope to have back running by next round of Pretty.

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PaulSamwel Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 10 Jan 2026 Location: washinton Points: 11	Post Options Post Reply Quote PaulSamwel Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 Jan 2026 at 1:29pm
	Let us know how that new starter works out.Just bought a Lucas style from DB Electric for my 185.Supposed to be a higher quality rebuild..we'll see.

DrAllis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 22560	Post Options Post Reply Quote DrAllis Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: 30 Jan 2026 at 1:33pm
	In our family, we've gotten three gear-reduction starters from DB electric for the same A-C engine family application and have had no regrets. Edited by DrAllis - 30 Jan 2026 at 1:34pm

DMiller Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 35256	Post Options Post Reply Quote DMiller Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 Jan 2026 at 2:06pm
	Aided another 185 owner near us install one of these, lighter, spins faster, should be good just not the Old AC but that is disappearing.

TedN Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 30 Apr 2025 Location: Central WA Points: 138	Post Options Post Reply Quote TedN Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 Jan 2026 at 2:30pm
	I have two starters that occasionally have the drive not grab, so I have a gear reduction starter from DB on the shelf. Nice to hear that others have had good results. Ted
	190XTD seriesIII, 190XTD seriesI, maroon belly 7000, 190XTD series??? project(or maybe parts)

DMiller Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 35256	Post Options Post Reply Quote DMiller Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 2 hours 39 minutes ago at 12:19pm
	Had the old one off, New One was on in Minutes!! Not ever had that easy a install. Tractor cranked like not ever before started just fine so shut down and gathered everything up cleaned up, and tried to put outside to do some snow cleanup, won't crank, ammeter goes hard Neg past 60a, checked engine still turn by hand at fan so tried again, got to roll once then starter locked back up. All States Ag getting a return slip sent out, shipping another. Figures too easy, HAD to go south.

Ky.Allis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Location: Kentucky Points: 1038	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ky.Allis Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 1 hour 21 minutes ago at 1:37pm
	WOW! that sounds like my kind of luck. I always said that if you cut a woman in half, I'd get the half that eats.