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    Posted: Yesterday at 5:04am
I'm Peter, 54 years old and located in Belgium.
I started a rebuild project together with my 18 year old son, an Allis Chalmers B
It runs and drives, but not as it should, so we got a little bit of work in the future
It's already converted to 12 Volt
When I find out how I will post some pictures on the forum

I don't know if this works:


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thats a good looking little tractor.. You have the optional 5  bolt rear wheels / hubs... Most of the Bs had a 2 inch spline shaft that the hub was mounted to..

Good luck.. This is a great place to ask questions..
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Interesting rear wheels,has the center nut like the older B's but the centers are different from anything I have ever seen.Maybe something offered in Europe and not in the USA?Very neat tractor.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote steve(ill) Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Yesterday at 8:27am
your right Gary.. I had to blow up the photo to see the nut.... I THINK there were 3 versions of the axle... one had the center nut, one had the 5 bolt flange, and a third was an ADAPTOR hub with 5 bolts that slid onto the original taper spline shaft... That is apparently what he has..

normally the 5 bolt flange came with the straight adjustable front axle as compared to the wishbone axle.. hard to tell in this movie..


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Can I just ask how I can post pictures here, I don't find a program to upload them

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at the bottom of this post, on the left, there is a POST REPLY box.. Click on that and it will bring up another page... Click on the GREEN TREE icon in the heading of that page.. At the lower left you can CHOOSE your PHOTO from your computer file  or desktop.....

Files need to be in the 800 x 600 pizel size and will be 100- 200 KB... Most cameras are 5000 x 4000 pixels  and 5 MB in size and this SITE will NOT RESIZE for you.. Do that in PAINT or similar before you upload..


Edited by steve(ill) - Yesterday at 9:28am
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Steve, you have your photo uploads response in a file to copy and paste? It'll keep a broken record
No disrespect to OP or you. Wish there was an easier way

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Peter, sometimes you can get a third party site to post your photos, but the easy way is to have it on your computer or phone and just use the GREEN TREE icon as i posted above..

Some guys post LINKS when they have an album, but a single photo or two is easy with the GREEN TREE.

here is a snapshot of your You Tube video...




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Originally posted by Gary Burnett Gary Burnett wrote:

Interesting rear wheels,has the center nut like the older B's but the centers are different from anything I have ever seen.Maybe something offered in Europe and not in the USA?Very neat tractor.


It is a requirement back then that tractors sold in Europe had to have flanged axles to bolt to the wheel.

I wish I could find the source of that info now.
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I have a Fairbanks Morse FM magneto on the B, I need to change the spark plug cables.
Can I just pull the old cables out of the cap?
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Originally posted by PeterVD PeterVD wrote:

I have a Fairbanks Morse FM magneto on the B, I need to change the spark plug cables.
Can I just pull the old cables out of the cap?

Yes. Make sure you use (copper) wire spark plug wires with a magneto.
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Originally posted by WF owner WF owner wrote:

Originally posted by PeterVD PeterVD wrote:

I have a Fairbanks Morse FM magneto on the B, I need to change the spark plug cables.
Can I just pull the old cables out of the cap?

Yes. Make sure you use (copper) wire spark plug wires with a magneto.

I ordered a set with a copper wire inside, and Champion J8C spark plugs 
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some  AC engines tend to have problems with the new Champ J8C plugs... Some work OK.. If you have a random miss fire after all is done, keep that in mind.... you may be fine..
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Originally posted by steve(ill) steve(ill) wrote:

some  AC engines tend to have problems with the new Champ J8C plugs... Some work OK.. If you have a random miss fire after all is done, keep that in mind.... you may be fine..
Thanks Steve,
What plugs do you recommend and are they available in Belgium (europe)
In Belgium we have a webshop that specialises in oldtimer trators (named histoparts) and the only plug they have for an Allis Chalmers is the Champion J8C
The only alternative I find here is a NGKB6S


Edited by PeterVD - 5 hours 7 minutes ago at 11:16am
Restoring a Allis Chalmers B
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On the documents I see that mij B is registered in France for the first time in 1953.
The serial number is I0062 en according to google it's build way earlier than 1953
Not so important to me, I just like to know the year that it's build
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Nice tractor! Big smile
Is the small black box just below the steering arm the battery? Your generator and electrical looks different than the US versions.

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Peter, that serial number in the 10,000 range would be a 1938.. Your tractor has a battery box, generator and starter motor...  General appearance would make you think it was built several years later than that.. Maybe your missing a digit ?   The serial number is by the gear shift lever ... B- XXXXXX... the front wheel  / rim was different on the 1938- 49 tractors... yours looks like the standard 5 bolt automotive type rim that was common on the later tractors..

In the US, the NGK plugs are more common among Allis users of the smaller engines.... Since you have the Champs, give them a try... the might be OK..


Edited by steve(ill) - 2 hours 56 minutes ago at 1:27pm
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